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Did he just get demerit points instead of a suspension? I'm not sure. As for the suspension, we have nothing when it comes to crumbing forwards so it's rather frustrating that Davey is suspended, particularly considering our injury list. As others have said, I hope this is the catalyst for some changes.

Match reports seem to use it as a segue into the tale of woe for Melbourne, but it's moreso the fact it rates a mention in every second thread on here

So sick of hearing about the shorts issue... Hopefully the Dees give you something to cheer about next time you travel to the GABBA.

We've continually been missing midfielders, or had guys playing unfit/injured. McDonald, Jones, and Godfrey are the only guys I can think of who have played a fair bit of footy. McLean was missing with injury this year, and then came back underdone. In the games Moloney has played he looked unfit, and has missed many with injury. Sylvia has been unable to play on the ball (if you think of Sylvia as a mid). Wheatley's been getting the ball a fair bit but seems to be carrying the shoulder injury that caused him to miss games earlier in the season. Bruce and Green were missing last night - guys like Buckley and CJ aren't up to AFL level yet.

I think there's a fair chance he'll be on our list, particularly considering Holland is nearing the end.

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Interesting to see Jamar in the best.

Coaches/players != property stewards.

Sandringham are having a great season.

On a serious note, it might benefit him. ~ Brock McLean

I think I'll be supporting Geelong.

Inexplicable? Could be something about having to get on an aeroplane and fly a few hours to our 'home ground'. Honestly, it's fine to rant about the MFC but this is reading too much into what's a reasonably simple mistake.

I heard Sheedy was going to the US at the end of the year. Anyhow, I imagine there are a few reasons why going to Ireland is an easier(?) choice - gaelic footy is more similar to AFL, there's less money to make (amateurs still?), and they probably have a little exposure to AFL. Can't hurt though.

From the footage it certainly looks that way. When I initially heard the reports I imagined that Voss may have been involved in some brawl in which a punch was thrown. The footage seems to indicate - and note that Voss' lawyer states that it's out of context - exactly what you've said; a premeditated attack. Interesting post. Sure does Something I'm not sure has been mentioned in this thread is the accusation by Voss' lawyer re: motivations behind the leaking. Voss' lawyer intimates that the timing of the leak was designed to damage Voss' chances at a senior AFL coaching gig. Could just be hot air of course.

I agree with the sentiment, but probably not the specifics. I can see Ward playing alongside CJ and Buckley for the rest of the year. I'm not so sure about Brown, and I don't think he has a future at AFL level beyond 2007.

I understand the surgery is news, but wasn't it already announced that Rivers wouldn't play any further part this season? Perhaps I just assumed he wouldn't play again.

It's interesting to read the optimistic comments about Neaves and then see that Jamar is rated above him - at least for this match.

I think Sandringham has at least one key forward not eligible to play for MFC while Jamar and Neaves are only competing against each other. Anyhow, I was just using at as an illustration of Neaves' stocks compared to PJ and White - right now he's a long way back, regardless of what some may say about White's ability as a ruckman.

Fair enough, but it seems Jamar is being picked in front of Neaves for Sandy this week and it's a big step up. I imagine Neaves will be on the list next year, so I'm sure he'll get a chance if he's good enough.

Happy with the team, although I expected Pickett to be named in the 25 instead of Moloney. Very happy that Moloney is named though, I think he's a good player. Haha, gold. I wonder how they get on - I read on this forum that Riley had told Carroll to ditch the headband.

I fail to see the point in upgrading someone simply for the sake of it. Neaves is way behind White & PJ in the pecking order. I wouldn't drop one of them for the sake of bringing in Neaves - what would it achieve? Not much IMO. Can see why people want to see youngsters, but it's going a bit far.

You're kidding, right?

When Holland gets dropped after doing a decent job on a gorilla it's not because he was poor. Do you complain that it's unfair? RE: runs on the board- what about the 83 games before last week? McLean and Davey have played less games and shown more. It's a poor illustration anyway - we simply don't have replacements for those players, so even if I thought they should get dropped (which I don't) there's no one to replace them anyway. Weetra would be the replacement for Davey, and an unfit Moloney for McLean - both not going to happen. We've already seen Ferguson as a backman and he's not good enough. I don't think he'll be playing AFL next year - certainly not with the Dees unless something miraculous happens. Garland has been playing well in the backline for Sandy the last couple of weeks. He may not actually be a better footballer than Ferguson right now, but he has a future at this Club and a heap more potential. He had 13 possessions in what was apparently 66% game time. That's on track for almost 20 possessions in his first game back in the big time. I'm sure guys who have been playing footy tend to get looked for more so I imagine that'll increase as players look for him more and he starts to feel comfortable. Exactly. That said, I'm happy to see how Miller fares. He might be needed for these sorts of jobs if Holland is delisted at the end of the year, and I thought Miller did a good job on Pavlich at the 'G last year.

Who gave Miller criticism? I didn't. Not sure why you'd bring in a tall for a small forward or a midfielder unless you don't think team balance was right. I'd also suggest that Davey and McLean have more runs on the board than Miller. Regardless, it seems beside the point - I don't see Miller and McLean fighting for the same position. Ferguson isn't an AFL-grade defender IMO. I'd rather Garland (who's been playing on half-back) or Warnock. I understand that POV and if Miller plays I hope he does well.

Our long injury list, coupled with the fact we won, means I can't see too many changes for this weekend. I think it's unlikely too many players will be dropped, although we'll be forced to make at least one change. Petterd is out for an indefinite period, but Cameron Bruce (hamstring soreness - test) may come into the side after being a late withdrawal versus Carlton. If Bruce isn't available, I imagine Pickett will be selected after being named as an emergency vs Carlton. Nathan Carroll's status for this week is 'test' after suffering concussion. If he is unavailable I think it'd be a straight swap for Holland, who would play on Jonathon Brown. However, if Carroll is available I think he'll be selected and thus we're then faced with deciding who we want to play on Brown - either retain Miller (pro-stats listed as 1cm shorter & 6kgs lighter than Brown) or swap him for Dutchy (2cm taller & 2kg heavier). Of our other fit players, I don't think any of them are crying out for selection. With Neitz listed as what is surely an optimistic 'test' and Moloney having played only one game for Sandringham 1sts since his return, it leaves the likes of Ferguson, Warnock, Garland, and Jamar as available reserves. IN - Bruce, Holland OUT - Petterd, Miller B: Ward, Frawley, Carroll HB: Brown, Holland, Bizzell C: McLean, McDonald, Wheatley HF: Dunn, Bate, Sylvia F: Davey, Robertson, Newton FOLL: White, Bruce, Jones I/C: P.Johnson, Godfrey, Buckley, C. Johnson EM: Miller, Pickett, Garland Thoughts?