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The striking thing to me is that team wise we aren't all that different to the 2018 version that won 2 finals and beat GWS, West Coast etc to get in to finals. That was our line up then. FB: Jetta Oscar Hibberd HB: Lewis Frost Salem Int: Fritsch C: Tyson Oliver Jones HF: ANB Tommy Petracca FF: Spargo Weid Hannan Int: Melk Foll: Gawn Viney Brayshaw Int: Harmes Vanders Backs: Out: Jetta Lewis, Fritsch Oscar Frost In: Hunt, Rivers, Lever, Tomlinson, May Mids: Out: Tyson, Vanders, Harmes In: JJ, Petracca, Langdon (Gus to a wing) Forwards: Out: Weid, Hannan, Petracca (mid) In: Jackson, Kosi, Fritsch Coaches: Out: McCartney In: Williams Out: Jennings/Mathews In: Yze I feel like we spent 2 years in the wilderness but really we've kind of come full circle back to a lot of what we were doing late in 2018. The backline needed turnover and we've replaced young key defenders with more experienced options who have now settled in, then also replaced some older legs with fresh (and fast) legs on the flanks. Salem and Hibbo (in a modified role) are the only holdovers since 2018 so it's not a huge surprise that things took a while to get sorted. The shift from all out press to keeping a defensive anchor has been a big positive too. The midfield was crying out for a Langdon player who we got, but there the biggest change has been the young leaders stepping up and starting to own the way they wanted to play. We also had to adapt to Petracca coming in last year which helped him go to another level but threw out the balance of 2018. JJ has given us what Harmes did (and could do again) as a negating and receiving option. The forward line is really getting back to what we did very well at the end of 2018. The pressure is more consistent. The talls have paired well. Tom is back to being Tom and LJ is doing what Weid did - offering something in the ruck and a contest forward. Fritsch is a bit different but he's taken over what Melk/Petracca gave us in 2018, and obviously there's still options with a 3rd genuine tall and changing things around. Brendan McCartney was very good in setting a culture and standard of young mids to hunt the ball and compete. He was the development coach and mentor we needed to get that aspect of the game right. Choco is now providing a bigger focus on run, skills and decision making, no doubt still stressing the need to win the ball. Soccer has had that system for a while of the 'manager' who controls everything but a 'first team coach' or similar who's job is to drill the players, I think it's a great set up as long as there's trust and the roles are defined. The midfield set ups, coaching and leadership are huge factors in getting us playing well. A lot of it is that we've got maturing talent and one way or another they were probably going to start to click more but a fresh voice from outside the club has surely helped.

He lacks a point of difference or he wouldn't give us a point of difference? I reckon both of those aren't true. He can play inside, outside or forward and has a booming kick. I reckon his disposal can be a bit iffy but is definitely ok and I wonder if we thought he was benefitting a lot from Rowell getting the opposition attention.

Wow that draft board is interesting. Would love to know where Rivers, Serong, Day, Georgiades and some others are. Sparkes and Baldi at Casey for a good reason I'd imagine, there's 2 worth watching. I'd also be a bit cautious on any Anderson gloating. He's a star and he was a lock to go to the Suns. It's a pretty easy bias to have when someone is out of contention to start to downplay them. The difference between Anderson and Tom Green is that Tom Green was genuinely in play for us. And I reckon our recruiters would've loved to pick him, he was such a solid player. Jason Taylor seemed very sold on Jackson though. 2019 draft is looking very good. The first round has a bunch of special players. The second round has quality and even the 3rd and 4th rounds have some interesting young players.

They subbed Ross on who was and played like the freshest man on the ground in the last. Apart from GWS and Hawthorn I reckon we’ve played pretty safe and slow in most last quarters this year. Would like us to find a few more uncontested marks to slow it down but no issue with the boys preserving energy. The games are incredibly taxing.

16 more matches until finals if we make it. There’s still a heap of time to get a big key forward in and try a couple of fresh faces through the midfield and backline. Bowey, Sparrow, Weid, Brown all hungry and all have traits that can make us better but we don’t need to force it.

Don’t judge it by the last quarter, we were spent and just killing time. Watch the 2 middle quarters for some blistering demons football.

6. Jackson - thought his marking, contesting, clean ball handling and decision making were a cut above in the first 3 quarters. 5. Salem 4. Petracca 3. Gawn 2. Lever 1. Oliver Tommy and Langdon very stiff.

Harmes is injured, Sparrow was the sub and Laurie is injured too. Add Vanders and the 6 on ballers in the team - Gus, Melk, JJ, Viney, Tracc, Oliver and I think we’ve got the right number of centre square options. Versatility is the key for any additions

I would’ve have Fritsch in the 2’s but Id think about resting him even if he gets medical clearance. The old ‘if you don’t train you don’t play’ rule is a pretty good one I think. I don’t want a marking player who isn’t 100% confident in his marking.

He specifically said both won’t play this AM. And Brown trained in the B team, which would be an unusual mind games. It’s pretty safe to say Brown won’t be in. Its now down to Weid and Fritsch or just one or the other.

Early days but I loved what I saw from Deakyn Smith against Box Hill. Pace, aggression and leap to spoil talls. I like Harry Petty as a zoning tall defender (back up to Lever and eventually compete with Tomlinson) and probably equally if not more so as a CHF, but I think we need a May backup with pace and agility to spoil or go smaller to take a Toby Greene as May did. Hard to find but I do think we need to add more key defensive depth. I’d be looking in the mid season draft for a project tall. Otherwise it’s skilled flexible running players. Pickett, Spargo, ANB, Bowey and Laurie probably means we need a few more with size rather than sub 180 but I don’t care if they’re 180 or 190. Hard and smart footballers who can run, kick and tackle, that’s the aim of the game.

Just rewatched the first half to confirm it and you're spot on. Bedford has excellent speed and clearly his endurance is great too, so that combination alone is a fair bit to work with. But I watched a number of his junior games and his game was really forward pressure and some really excellent burst from stoppages - he was often used in the centre square. Otherwise he just didn't find much of the ball. Having watched the first half I was impressed by the way he found a lot of the ball but the best parts of his game remained forward pressure and the great burst from stoppages which is how he kicked 2 nice goals. A number of his other kicks went nowhere near the target apart from a nice centering ball. As you said Chandler doesn't have the pace but his skill and ability to weave through traffic is far more advanced than Bedford's. He was finding more of the ball in the corridor and getting to the drop. I would've thought if Spargo goes out of the side then Chandler is the best replacement. If Bedford were to come it could be more to cover part of what Kozzie and ANB do. I'd really only have confidence in his pressure and work rate and then hope he's given some chances to get on the burst at stoppages.

I've thought about Gus to half back and taking out Hunt or Rivers but I doubt they'll mess with the backline set up, especially with speed vital against the Tigers. May for Petty the only change to the back 7. Gawn, Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Langdon, Gus seem locks. As is Tom McDonald at CHF I think. I can't see them disrupting the ANB, Spargo, Pickett trio that's been so responsible for our pressure. Jones is locked in. So it comes down to 4 spots for Jackson JJ, Melksham, Fritsch and maybe a key forward in Weid/Brown. I think Jackson is in against Richmond. He gives us an advantage in the second ruck minutes and we can manipulate when Max rests and what role Max plays. That said, I don't want to see much at all of Max forward this week if we bring in a true full forward target. JJ brings elite endurance and team orientated midfield play. Richmond's success is based on getting it to the outside and having guys like Graham and Lambert run all over sides. I think he stays in as the 4th on baller that allows Petracca to go forward more. Probably time to get Weid in to the side because we know we'll have 1 big forward playing every week assuming things go to plan. After that I lean Fritsch over Melksham but it's a matter of Fritsch being 100% fit and confident and ready to play a more up the ground role rather than his undersized full forward spot. If there's any doubt on Fritsch's hand then give him 1 more week.

I can't help but feel like if we were a proper organised football club in the late 00's/early 10's we would've had Joel Smith in a father son academy and developed his skills and body better. A touch of luck and better development at an early age and he might've been anything. Still time for him to get right and show something this year, I maintain he's too good for VFL level, but it just doesn't seem to be in his favour. Also a shame to see Bill Laurie out for an extended period. I guess he gets a chance to build his body and keep his legs moving once everything settles down. I thought he could debut and even be a sneaky sub option this year, but like the rest of the guys who missed all of last year he needs some footy under his belt.

It's about this stage where if he was a young West Australian in the Eagles academy he'd be locked away out of sight, there'd be a rumour about some misdemeanor and he'd suddenly spring back after the draft with 8kgs of pure muscle added to his frame.

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I can see Hibberd going full ground as he did a couple of years ago. Maybe Gus starts at half back, JJ on a wing and Hibberd in the square then they all rotate post bounce. But I don’t think that will be plan A. I think we’ll start head to head in the midfield then have Hibbo pick him up after the bounce. Viney to mind him at stoppages makes sense.

Jackson is a special athlete. He walked in to the club with a great tank and a decent build for his body, plus a lot of talent. Comparing Bradtke to him is like comparing Weideman to Hogan or James Jordon to Clarry. Martin was drafted at 21, played full back at 22 in an awful team. Didn’t breakthrough until 25 in 2011. Jamar played 22 games at age 22 but averaged 4.4 touches, he did little more than be big and tall, and that didn’t change until well in to his 20’s. They might’ve been big boys but they were miles off starting caliber AFL rucks. Anyway, it’s not that I have huge hopes it’s just we should give him the year to see if he can impact VFL games. If he can show something at VFL level this year he’s on track.

He's had 2 seasons and 1 game. The first year he started at Nab league level before playing a few VFL games, the second year he was stuck in QLD hubs. The only game I saw him play was a practice game against North and he did a few nice things. I don't know how you'd judge his physical development unless you had mail from the club. I would've thought the aim was to develop his tank and core strength rather than add bulk. He has to show something this year so time will tell, but that wasn't even the point. The point was there shouldn't be a ceiling on what he could be based on his current size, shape or even performance. He could add to the long list of young rucks who don't make it or could be the next Jamar or Stef Martin type who offered little at AFL level until their mid 20's.

3 is working very well for them. But they dropped Mitch Wallis who was their undersized marking forward last year (and vice captain this year) because he didn't get near it and wasn't providing ground level pressure. So they drew the line at 3. And they have great skills and move the ball beautifully around until they can find their tall targets. We will likely be a bit messier and rely on contest and pressure to create chances. McDonald's tank and Fritsch and Jackson's mobility makes 4 taller players a potential option, but I doubt we'll ever see 5.

I assume they whisked him down to the G to be the emergency if someone got hurt in the warm up. Knowing that he’d only be the sub they could risk playing him for a half first.

He isn’t even 21 yet. Still 2 years away from being 2 years away! Clearly he has to keep improving this year but I wouldn’t be making any predictions about his eventual role. At 204cms I think he’ll end up with more than enough size to be a first ruck if he does the work.

Why do we have a thread about a 13 year old? Seriously lock it and come back in 3 years time at least

If you bring in both Brown and Weideman one or both of them will have to spend significant time in the CHF up the ground role that Tom is playing. He had 2 touches in the back 50 and 69% of touches in the attacking half. Replacing Tom when he's at peak fitness and in decent form for 2 guys who have played 1.5 games each and don't offer much at ground level or defensively doesn't make sense. Bring one of Weid/Brown in this week, bring the next one in when they have a bit more fitness under their belt. There's 17 team weeks until finals, now is not the time to try to assemble our best possible line up or worry about who's in the long term plans. Picking the best team for right now has to be the aim and that means keeping the guy who took 10 marks at CHF.

I thought the first half of the weekend was his first poor half and that he'd been at least good in all other games. Would be shocked if he was dropped.