jayceebee31

I thank you for your advise. No dummy spit by me, just my viewpoints.By the way,cannot remember your apologies, but I know doubt you did, but wonder why? There was no need IMO. But these trades including yours needed vetting IMO.

I will not be answering any more posts regarding this matter but had to reply to yours. How is it dishonest if indeed I throw the game.I said , I was, how is that dishonest.I believe your current trade is ! Yes- I do feel threatened - yep, the opportunity to collude is massive IMO.It needs some sort of security to cover the possibility of this happening.And lastly,I am not a looser,like others whom have tried to get up my nose many times.Goodbye.

Tremendous in trying to regain Ology to former glory.Just got out of hospital therefore an absentee, however when required will contribute resources when they are required.Will have plentyof time available soon hopefully.

I will move on and don't want to do any trade.Never said, I was interested in him.And by the way, you have had your viewpoints and threatened to walk because you did not believe in certain processes.I respected your point then ad still do, and stated it accordingly.And you wasn't going to accept majority rules. I will and have always done so.So leave it at that.I will not stuff the league by stuffing it up wtth trades that will stff the finals.Robbo will win easily IMO. All the best for the remaining period.

At least I am voicing my own opinions not voicing a colluded one or one that you say, we, not I. I voice my own opinions , I do not care if you agree.I just felt strongly enough to voice mine.As stated, I leave the right to voice there opinions.I rest my case with that. I just want to conclude by saying: To D/L 7, to whom has been reading this site today, I personally want to express, that what I have said, is regarding the merit of your trade.I must be honest and say that I thought you were colluding with your brother.I made the mistake that you were Robbo's brother. I apologies for both points.ToRobbo, I am not spiriting the dummy and I truthfully have not protested because I am laying you this week. - actually, if Iwasn't giving you a walkover, I would give you a run for your money, even with your list, that may, or maybe not include Thomas.Your brother did explain it well, in his post. Lastly, JA- I sincerely thank you for the opportunity to introduce me to Ultimate footy, play in the Demonland league and I have voiced my appreciation personally before,I do not agree with some aspects that have happened during this season.However, I have accepted majority rules and tried to work under current rules, I do not agree with all aspects.It is not you, that I have recommended changes,I have done so, to hopefully improve it for now and future years. I am surely sorry for any grief I have cased you. I thank you. I have played it hard and fair, had a lot for fun, stirred and have accepted plenty back.I feel this matter has now gotten to of hand. I feel that certain people have tried to gag me, which no one will ever.I feel, I am being even feeling threatened.Sime would prefer me, not just to shut up, but to get out.Lastly LowerDeck, we have had some fun at each other.Disappointingly, I never beat you as a coach.However, regarding this matter re my protesting, I not going to be gagged.

What the hell are you and HT doing if you are not trying to sway your viewpoints?

Again that is your opinion which your allowed to state. Why shouldn't I be allowed.I feel you try to muscle me not to..I believe, we should never make such rules during a season such as a rookie keeper system mid season.This I believe, should have been made at end of season or at least before the start of a season.Whilst JA has managed our league as he sees fit, and whilst I respect and thank him for the opportunity to play, it does not make me to or should make me void to voice my opinions. Also, it does not stop me to voice possible improvements. If this is the case,then, it is not democratic.Again, whilst we have two Mods in our league,I also question, why we should voice our opinions on this site when we have the message section of the Ultimate site.All current trades may get through, however, again, I ask, why cannot we question the merits of all or any? JA has offered us a great opportunity to play in his league and I have been very pleased to do so.And whilst it has been majority rules, does that mean that any aspect cannot be improved or suggestions made.Again, I question all current trades, and feel you are just trying to shut me up and not allow me to voice my opinions.And as a Mod you can suspend me accordingly whilst I dose of this site.Especially when I question your trade mate.Lastly,again, it is majority rules currently , and I respect that, so I will wait till Friday, to see the outcome.

Whilst I have to respect your opinion, you are very much off the mark as usual.We have a certain time period before notification is made of whether a trade goes throug or not , we avevtwo days to agree or not after the day, a trade has been agreed to.That is my understanding of the current rule It is my understanding that this Friday this will be announced. Therefore, I believe you're wrong or I ask how do you know the outcome now.? Furthermore, I believe, that, neither Demonland or the mesage section of United Footy should be the outlet to voice any situations , like I have in this matter. .I believe, we should have a tribunal or the soughts to handle certain aspects , such as possible collusion can be heard.Certain aspects such as your proposed trade in getting rid of your 3 players at a time when these players may be judged as key to your current finals hopes maybe queried for the sake of the other 16 players outside the traders. Also, when you have family members and close friends it is easy to be questioned - Is everything above board.? A committee , could look at trade proposals and look at these before we get a chance to vetoe it. Again you always voice your opinion.Why cannot I.And whilst we do voice our opinions on all matters on this site, which I contribute to, I again feel that this should not be the utility to do so. If we had a committee, then one could protest or question in private without the ridicule that I have especially by you and HT.I await your answers and in particular , how do you know the outcome of the trades,I question.It is basically, only the current traders that have made comment and a brother of one.Two of the coaches have suggested they may vetoe, and another 8 have not made comment, soI await how you can make comments like you have.?

Great post and I am sorry if I brought you unneccessarily involved. I had thoughts in my mind that DL was Robbo's brother. I genuinely at first thought- collusion.Then, I thought, it may have been a mistake and I felt strongly enough to protest as strongly as I have done.No offence to your brother- good luck to him if he can get it through.Furthermore in answering MM's request to me qualifying why I believe his trade should also be vetoed- it is simple, Palmer is injured.Will miss game time. Please pass onto your mother, my apologies to her, in getting it wrong. Please wish Robbo all the best with this week's game and the rest of this season.Ditto- to you. However, I still believe strongly the trade b/w Robbo &. D/L 7 should be vetoed, and in the future rules & regs be invoked for the future of our game.

Give me an offer- I do not want to be unfair .My offer to you I have withdrawn as it would not have been fair to others and I do not want to do an unjust thing to bring myself in dispute over trade deals like others.I also have withdrawn my consideration to offers to OMR also.I have protested my point of views, been ridiculed by it. So I walk away from this saga bewildered by the conduct of other/s. I rest in peace with my soul, while others which I have questioned can do the same.Whilst it is a game, many of us have taken it seriously,like I and have spent many hours on it.And we should have certain rules to apply to our game which should allow questioning others actions. Like the Mods on this site, there are certain aspects which we all have to adhere to, if not you get suspendedRules and regulations should be implemented here.I have asked for a committee, which have fallen on closed ears and as I have been extremely lucky to take advantage of the kind effort and extremely kind offer to allow me to join this league,I thought however, we have a right to voice our opinion and furthermore if we want to vetoe and explain our thoughts , we would not be ridiculed for it.

About to make you an offer, but not possibly for him.

Yep but a very small tank- another Gys.

Thanks for caring.

As I always say, fair is fair, what happens this week will happen next week.Trades are usually fair.This one is ridiculous IMO. A coach is only as good as its players, you found this out last year.DL 7 won it.DL7 knows what I have been driving at.My driver is to obtain fair trades, the one you are doing with RR is also unfair IMO.I have voiced my opinion/s.Others have stuffed up this league this year not me.Last year I was stuffed up as well.Whilst it is a game, I like others take it seriously. I, like others have spent a lot of time to be competitive, I lost 3 major players in the first few rounds.I am not spending the time to be competitive to let unreasonable trades go through the las week of trades and two weeks before the finals.

Yep - somewhat similar to me last week.And are you questioning my character, you should be suspended or even thrown out. How dare you.!

Well trade him out ,I will offervp Stanton or SJ for him.What do you think - a worthwhile trace hey.

Again fair points you raise. Believe it or not, I am not spiriting the dummy because I am playing you. You will win ands down, especially with the current team I have. I nominated you the winner a long time ago. You have a great team.To be totally honest and I knew you were going to try together rid of Scully and you would want something for him,I strongly felt the trade is unjust,I have vetoed it and hope others will do the same.I just believe fair is fair and I am deeply querying the merits of it. Good luck to you if you get it through.Not only I am playing you this week others will play you inthe last 2 rounds and then the finals. Note,I am not bitter towards you, I am deep,y questioning the merit of loading Thomas for Scully. You ay ave noted I do not rate Scully and I believe all other coaches would prefer Thomas inthere team over Scully. Anyhow, I have said my piece, it is up to others to either let this go through or not.Iwas not questioning the character of anyone ,more the merit of it. Take care and all the best with this round. You will win 15 to 0,I will Mae sure of this.i

I don't have an issue with you,I just want to point out to other coaches that this league has got off track a little this year. I made a post back on the 11th of June 2012 requesting that rules, what ever they are be posted by the end of the byes, so we could all know and lay accordingly. I am just a litte miffed by the current trades and I nderstood I had a right to vetoe and also drum up why? Others have done so before hand and tat is fair enough.I have tried to put my point of view but absolutely knew what HT & RSPCA would react.I have had to put up with this overreactions from both for years now.Anyhow, just got out of hospital this morning and I ntebd totakecHT's advise.However, my chemist says Bex cannot be found soI will take a soluble aspirin.Take care and all the best for the finals.I might offer, SJ,Brownie and a couple of other of my team to OMR to give hm a chance for the finals.

Well,I am not the only one that has queried the rules.Hasn't MM queried the rules in the message section of Ultimate footy? I will take a huge rest and study the pick the winners in the round.This is not on.

again fair points you raise and if you believe that the trade is fair, well that is your point of view. I don't and that is why I have vetoed it, tried to raise the merit of the trade and if you truthfully think that I have done so in a way that it is not fitting again that s your opinion.

Very good Points that you raise and I believe equally each coach has a right to object to the trade or trades accordingly,in which zi have done. There have been other times when trades have been questioned to the merit of them. I am doing just that.If the other caches agree that this is a far trade then the trade will go ahead.I have protested to the trade I the basis of three aspects.Firstly the quality of the players and whilst you have pointed out that ratings can be wrong I belie e they are very accurate I this case.I also have questioned why the trade.And also the spirit.If indeed I am wrong in questioning all of the above, then the next 3 weeks, my opposition can have a walkover. I feel this league has got out of hand with regards to and in particular the spirit.These are my thoughts and I am sorry if you all feel I have gone over the top.By the wayI feel the last trade offer is equally ridiculous.All the best to all coaches for the remaining year and thanks HT for taking over the management of this league.I intend to try to whip you in the tipping comp still.

Yep Stay on D/L 7,I am at fault for questioning your character. However, I believe the trade is not I. The spirit of the league. However, I now see the true character of the league.nIbsillstay on just to try to win the tipsters poll and I will go. I am not enjoying the spirit of this league.To many close ties wth brothers, friends etc.It truly has been a privilege to play and I have enjoyed the rivalry but this year has not been anywhere the same as last year but these are the breaks.

Your post is quite misleading in that DL7 has currently 6 qualified rookies now. Why would he want to add Scully to his or her list of Adams,Butcher, Haynes, Melsham, Treloar, and Watts.I can assure you f I had this list, I would not want to retain Scully in my 2013 list above some of these.However, that s not my major point.It is the true value of the trade..Thomas for Scully. When you traded Sellwood, my memory states you obtained a player of some note- Goddard by memory.I actually thought your trade was a win - win.Trade of Thomas for Scully is just not on IMO.

Thanks for your openness and honesty.I knew you were related to someone.Good luck to you for trying to gain a player like Thomas for Scully.However,it should be rejected for the points I have raised.As D/L 7 knows, as champ last year.He/ She knows the spirit of the comp and this is not right.And as a protest, if you get this through, I will give you a walk over.By the way your brother belted the hell out of me and I wish he wins the p/ ship.( if I don't )