Dr. Gonzo

Most of his misses came from around the 50 too. If he marks it ~45 out I assume he'll miss as the effort to get the ball the extra 5 metres means it swings offline.

We definitely nailed this pick - interesting to see the difference between our drafting and Collingwoods since Taylor came over no wonder Eddie was filthy when we poached him.

So he's kind of like a Schroedinger's Hogan?

Relax, we've got this.

We've got a game in 4 days, probably not the ideal preparation to take 2x4 hrs flights mid week.

Langdon, Hardie and Crackers? Don't waste your time fretting over what those nimrods might say.

Agreed - I don't think it's hyperbole to say he could be the best forward we've had in the clubs history. Neitz and Schwarz were both good not great (Schwarz due to injury), Farmer and Jakovich were mercurial but inconsistent, we've never really had a true "spearhead" or champion CHF since the days of Fanning and Smith. If he left it would be a disaster.

Especially once we start getting exposure in FTA prime time games, this guy will drag in the supporters.

Exactly, even when down he still impacts the game and provides a target for us upfield. The only "poor" game he's had was against the Bombers, every other game he's played his role while threatening to explode at any moment. The less focus on him the better as far as team balance goes but even when not spearheading the side he remains the linchpin of the team. Will be a dominant CHF for the next decade, hopefully the Weed comes on as a full forward with Watts as the roaming 3rd tall and Garlett/Kent/Petracca crumbing to really cause headaches for opposition defences for years to come.

I think it's because it's based on the past 2 years worth of performances. Gawn has only really played the last 3/4 of a season (since mid last year) and Hogan only started last year too.

The amount of injuries they've got? If we're serious, I think we should win this game. It's not taking them for granted it's looking at the teams on paper and saying this team should beat that one.

Short turn around - Saints played the same day as us last week. Inability to play Etihad - this is a flaw, not an excuse Way the Saints match up on us - they play well against us but don't think its due to match-ups - they play smarter than us Beat the Suns next week - dunno, you're probably right but it won't prove much in my eyes. We should beat the Suns next week so it won't be some crowning achievement. It should be the expectation.

This year, yeah - but the last 4 or so years? Don't disagree with any of that. I was just pointing out that we underperform more frequently than time to time.

Twice in 5 games isn't "time to time" though, it's 40% of games. Not saying things won't improve but that's how things are as they stand.

I think he likes playing at Docklands- kicked 6 there last year as well didn't he?

Vince was pushed out the door by the Crows.

Are you saying players want to make sure Roos is gone before re-signing?

If we can afford $400k/year for Melksham I'm sure we'll find the coin for the Hulkster

Agree, the way they are travelling he would be the playing the "saviour of the club" role which is daunting enough but even moreso in a two-club town.

Hope so - I did notice in the post game interview on the MFC website when they asked him about Howe he kind of mumbled something about no hard feelings after a player leaves a club but hopefully it's just my own neuroses seeing things that aren't there.

I would love him to just be a stay at home forward who owns the 50 and kicks bags of goals every other week, but having him roam CHF/wing and drop back towards the goals allows him so much more freedom to attack the game and just be a presence to impose himself. He was great yesterday, dropped one sitter on the flank and missed the snap in the last after I'd already jumped up to celebrate thinking it was a monty, but other than that couldn't fault him.

Today is ripe for him to turn it on. He had a stinker last year Queens bday when Frost towelled him up but redeemed it in the return game where he was one of our key players. If he can play like he did in the 2nd quarter last week for the whole game he'll be in for a big one.

Because he's likely to have a personal relationship with either Worsfold or another former player who is a mutual friend whereas it is unlikely he knows anyone in Hogan's circle of friends/family. He may be going off what someone at Freo/WCE has told him but people at footy clubs talk [censored] (or what they believe to be true that turns out to be rubbish) all the time.

Worsfold- as in his former captain? Bit of a different situation.

Interestingly an article in the paper the other day talked about the Crows targeting Hurley and speaking to him last week when he was over there visiting his mate, Josh Jenkins. It mentioned he also went to the Showdown while over there.