Dr. Gonzo

A typical AFL rumour that should be skwoshed

I agree that would be interesting ?

Possibly used as a rotating wing/forward like what we were doing with TMac/Hogan in 2018.

How much is he asking per year?

If he's cheap why not. We need help retaining the ball in our forward 50 he has speed and is above average for pressure acts and elite for tackles inside 50 over his career.

No idea

Great minds ET ?

3 is too much but if we split pick 3 I wouldn't think trading one of those out for Papley would be crazy. Depends what sort of coin he wants but he's exactly what our forward line lacks.

Remember how we all laughed at Champion Data when they rated Collingwood's midfield as the best in the league after 2017?

You're assuming consistency in AFL decision making and that's fraught with danger

In a year where they made the GF. The above post is what I'm talking about in the Elliott thread

Same people complaining we missed out would have been complaining had we signed him "overpaid" "injury prone" "Collingwood cast-off" etc etc It's the nature of the beast, some people just love to complain and this website is evidence of the adage misery loves company. Doesn't matter what happens, whatever happens is evidence of the failure/incompetence of the club

So we should get Casboult as well to add to the circus? At least those guys offer run and carry and are in their early 20s. Casboult is 30 and offers nothing more than a good mark which Tomlinson will also provide

Of course and that's why we finished 17th. Trying to move on one of these players who did all of the above while playing at his ceiling is a good move. Gawn, Oliver etc have shown they are better than what they produced in 2019. For Frost that was his best.

God no. Yeah he can clunk it but then what happens? No more guys who can't kick please.

Petty showed something in the games he played. I wouldn't mind seeing a TMac/Petty combo with Weid as backup unless he demands selection through performance.

He looked like an undersized overweight defender. Not sure he is what we need although could be a long term replacement for Hibberd/Jetta potentially. From the very little I've seen/heard it seems Stephens, Young or Ash are the players we should be looking at.

I have two concerns about him, number 1 is his hammies. Number 2 is he is not a traditional small forward, he plays more like a key forward in a small forwards body ie lead up and mark. We need a legit crumber which I'm not sure Elliott is although he is good at applying pressure and retaining the ball inside 50. Of course I still want him if he is gettable as he is a very good player. But he may not solve our small forward needs.

Cheap speed AND he delivers?? Get me his number

Correct his erratic play looks great when he has the ball but it ruins our structures and catches our players out if position particularly when a) he misses a target and b) causes a turnover leaving our defenders out of position (as they are in "attack" mode) leading to an easy opposition score Frost has great closing speed and is good one on one but his negatives mean it would be stupid of the club to contemplate paying above market value for a player of his type.

Not sure why Brisbane are interested, they have Cameron and Christensen so doesn't seem like a good fit there. Of course you always make room for quality but it just seems a bit odd.

I don't understand they're line of reasoning when discussing our need for a key forward. They said "they lost Jesse Hogan last year, they traded out pick 6, Ben king a key forward, for a key defender in May, they traded out two first round picks for another defender in Lever" Yeah that's because our key defensive stocks were rubbish. If we have used those draft picks on forwards they would be saying how abominable our key defensive stocks are. Can't have your cake and eat it. Just seems really shallow analysis with a lot of points that don't even make sense, not to those of us who follow the team closely anyway. For the average Joe blow they'll probably agree A podcast I've found just yesterday which offers far greater analysis is the Lystics AFL Podcast, great listen even if just to listen to their take on other teams. Very thorough and they've done a 45 minute lisr analysis of each team.

If Roos couldn't get the best out of Howe that's on Howe, not the club. He's overrated anyway takes some decent intercept marks, does the odd thing that sets up the play but still turns it over more than he should

Further up the creek than 17th? Once you're that far downstream does it even matter?

Dude they're not pinching Oliver from us, it's Frost FFS