Adam The God

With SOS as list manager and the old boys club remaining, Carlton have a distinctly old MFC, living off past glories vibe about them. I reckon they're in trouble as a club.

the dot dot dot

Yeah, well, exactly. If I'm Jesse, I'm more likely to want to stay at Melbourne, even if it is for $400-500k less pa. The Gaff likely re-signing adds further intrigue - does Jesse follow suit?

Yep, clearly says a lot about Lyon and Freo, but this is what you're insinuating I think.

For mine, it's clear we've identified the defence as our weak point. First getting Hibberd in there, then Lever and now we're going after May. I hope we're looking to entirely transform our defence in the space of two or so off seasons. If so, that would be simply superb list management. At the same time, we address our other outside need with KK and this year or next we go hard again for a Kelly, Whitfield type to further strengthen the list.

I like Pearce, who @Patches O’houlihan mentioned earlier in the thread. Put him alongside May and Lever and we've got real versatility to play on talls or smalls. Not to mention it releases Hibberd to play rebound and Jetta to play lock down, while relegating Omac and Frost to depth. Win, Win, Win for mine.

If we're not paying much for Wingard and the FD think they can get consistency out of him, he's exactly the sort of player our forwardline and midfield lacks. I'd be all over him.

He still does both unfortunately and apart from pace, I'd much prefer Fritsch on a wing than Zak Jones and I'd much prefer Salem off half back than Zak Jones.

You know some Port supporters? ?

It doesn't suit their purposes because they need to sell hope. Another year under the dour Ross Lyon and no sign of tangible improvement. They need Hogan and they'll desperately pay to get him. Wowza. And Rosco's pregnant.

I'm trying to recall. Have we ever traded with GCS?

@Fifty-5 has shown that many teams have had multiple list changes and that 8 is actually closer to the average. West Coast is merely an example of many list changes failing to prevent success. What are you looking for? Are you simply looking to criticise the FD? The stats cited provide enough evidence to suggest 11 list changes are not destabilising. That's no excuse for not showing improvement next year, unless you're looking for an excuse, @Sadler?

Eh?

Each to their own, mate. It's just my opinion. Hope you enjoy season 2019 either way. : )

Fortunately, we won't get to see TMac butcher the ball at CHB, because there's absolutely no way TMac will play back again. And Hogan will go. Nothing surer. So your team with TMac replacing Hogan and Frost/OMac playing CHB is getting better.

Perhaps.

Sounds like (yes, on the surface) Strauss...

Yeah, but the two aren't mutually exclusive. In my view, the club is driving this because Hogan has refused to extend past next year. I wouldn't be surprised if we'd all initially put off contract talks until the year of the season. Once we lost to WC over in Perth, our list management team sat down with Hogan and his reps, and asked him whether he'd extend. When he refused, we encouraged him to explore his options.

Yep. Clear to me too we're driving this. I expect Freo are posturing RE: Neale being worth more than a first rounder to placate their supporters when they have to give up two first rounders up for Hogan. Still, bizarre tactics from Freo given they in turn undermine their own negotiations over Jesse's worth. Unless, of course, a deal has already been struck between us and then it becomes merely an attempt to save face with their restless supporter base.

Hahaha, the guy is a deadset muppet. How stupid can you be?

Nah, I just thought he was a turnover merchant. I was completely wrong. What a move by the FD and Goody. I'll back them in again here.

Earlier in 2018. ?

I love those leaps you make, Wolfy. Who said it was a surefire to success?

He's been waiting for this moment for how many years? Wouldn't want to be washing his pants tonight.

I've never said it's that simple. But I have said games are won in the midfield more often than not.