DemonDan...

Great.. now the missus is looking at me all strange.

I think you bring the 'grumpy turtle' out in everyone Stuie.. just by being you.

Well 'the whole world' also rated Viney at about pick 6 - 8 and i dont think GWS wouldve taken him before then. We should know Sheedy by now. So we agree to disagree.. and TSFKA has got it right. We'll never know. My point is - i, personally, would rather stack the midfield (and the backline) before the forward line.. For me, Viney, Toumpas AND Wines along with Jones, is akin to Brisbanes 'Fab Four' from a decade ago.. Some will agree, some wont.. makes for an interesting discussion tho..

Why am i looking at a gif of you making your boyfriend cry? ..and anyone involved in the gameday thread knows what im talking about.

Ah, see youre making that assumption! When GWS clearly said that they always had the intention of picking the 3 players they did - because they basically grew up/played footy together, while growing up. I think they shyed away from Toumpas because of the hip problems.. clubs do that to kids with injuries all the time..just look at our own Sam blease And at NO STAGE did i 'wish Hogan away' - in fact i proposed that we could have a real dip at him in this years draft, just 1 page back in fact.. Howd you miss that?

At least im commenting on 3 or 4 games that these kids have played really well in.. Wines BOG against us for eg, Where as Viney played ok in 1.. BUT youre telling me he will be the pick of the bunch?.. Should i remind you "WE havent played a game yet?" or did i see that somewhere recently..

Can see your point, but after viewing the game on replay, i feel a proper midfield is still 1-2 players and 3-4 years away from having any real effect.. and something that we shouldve put more focus on - if it was possible. I think we couldve got Toumpas at 3, Wines at 4 and Viney at 26? ..apologises if im wrong or have forgotten about something.. (AND still had a real dip at getting Hogan in this years draft) i agree on Hogan having every chance to be a star - but Wines has been one of the best players in the whole NAB Cup series and been best or in the best every game from memory! ..and you dont see superstar? I see superstar in Wines, Vlaustin and of course Whitfield from this years draft so far.. (we know Viney has it - but just hasnt been in a position to show it yet) INHO of course! EDIT: id guess if there was a shifty deal between us and gws for a 'hogan/barry/pick 3/leave toumpas for us deal' we would have been sprung by now

Can THIS troll be banned from posting in threads? I mean, you show your stupidity in every post. After your efforts for winning tool of the week in the 'gameday thread' a couple of days ago - you have the nerve to hark up at someone else? Fool. BTW - my pick of Wines as the best mid, inside / outside from the draft a few months ago.. wasnt too far off huh? You were in the process of disagreeing when we last spoke.. That was before you began slagging me off in other threads.. I really think we messed up not taking all 3 (Wines instead of Hogan - then Toumpas and Viney) -besides the fact were short on mids, its no good having an elite forward line if it doesnt get down there.. Lovin the 'Hulk', but for me - its mids, mids, mids..

Couldnt have said it better.. Selwood had Ablett, Bartel, Kelly, Chappy, Johnson.. Judd had Cousins, Matera, Kerr, Fletcher, Embley.. Viney has Jones. (Jones had NO-ONE) EDIT: My little bro is a North supporter, so i kinda keep an ear out for them in the news etc and chat to him about them.. i reckon theyll push top 4 this year. Its a bummer we have to play them 1st up.. it may have been a contest against the tiges - both teams fresh.. may have even pinched a win. But north will be way too good for us and then we play the Tiges in the 2nd game while theyre fresh.. Imo, itll be more about seeing how the newbies go about it and trying to detect some assemblance of the gameplan..

'This time i'm playing to win' - LRB

How'd you get to that conclusion? ... and we know injuries ... broken legs ... blease, strauss for eg. He was still limping at the start of this season FFS, of course his footy wasnt great last year. Just watched a replay with some mates who missed it ... (BTW - i missed a handball in the 3rd and 2 kicks at the start of the 4th qtr - so i reckon 14 touches for the game, not 11) Point is, there was plenty of run, run to space and/or position, 2nd and 3rd efforts, controlled intensity, sublime skills - he got pinned in the third by young Vlastuin and I reckon that was his only boo-boo. It was the Aaron davey of old - if you dont believe me, watch for yourself when you can: Let's just hope his body gives him the chance to keep it up. Listen for him being talked about at the start of the half time break and during the 3 qtr time break.. (and throughout the telecast as well). ... and look for the No.8 - or a big indige-afro type do...

quote name="CBDees" post="694877" timestamp="1360356812"] Probably because they mixed the two of them up.

We take the money we wouldve given to him this year and effectively give it straight to Pederson or Byrnes.. and thats money well spent! Cheers and better luck back home Cale..

I read somewhere he had an off field issue.. more than once. Wont say what it was because the post will just get pulled.. But it would explain why he's gone.. and maybe why he's gone interstate.. Trust Neeld.. he's been with the best.

RD:1 Friday, Feb 22 6:45pm EDT Etihad Stadium Richmond Melbourne North Melbourne FOX FOOTY Full fixture: http://www.afl.com.a...97/Default.aspx

From Afl.com.. "Pedersen is not the only player still in the Demons' sights, with former Richmond and Port Adelaide midfielder David Rodan touring Melbourne's AAMI Park facilities recently. Rodan was delisted by Port Adelaide earlier this month so would be available as a free agent at the end of the trade period if the Demons decided to pursue him. Rodan turned 29 in early October and has played 176 games since his debut in 2002." http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/150141/default.aspx

Aww, you snotty 'cause i didnt put a pic up for ya? No wait.. youre just snotty.

My mate has a 'Prince Albert' - which might be worse! Whoomp! Dere it is..

Its humorous that someone very close to the club assured people that we would take Wines at no.4 if he was still there.. but yet here we are discussing it. Thought this was a bit odd.. When Shifter Sheehan presented Wines with 'player of the TAC cup' on Future Stars about 3 weeks ago, he specifically mentioned that: 'Wines is not the fastest player, but still gets to the ball 1st and away from packs because his reading of the play was so good raw pace didnt matter' (or words to that effect) Yeah -"he moves on" Smart. If youve ever played sport at a high enough level you'd know why.

Good to see you around the place HG.. Getting Wines is the difference between a really good draft period and a fracking great one, IMO.. 2nd that.. Soon everyone will have you on ignore and you'll be talking to yourself.. Would be great if in amongst the whole Hogan / Barry deal, there was a 'gentlemans agreement' that wines would be left for us at no.4.. the way weve been going about it of late, it wouldnt surprise me! Wines is a Veyron..

http://www.sen.com.a...Harrington/6138 Sounds like Dawes has already been shown thru the place!

Now look little fella.. dont get frustrated. youre upset because i called you out for having such a big boner for viney.. its clouded your judgement on many things, many times.. you can be upset at me all you like, but ill just keep shooting you down.. you can drag it into every thread if you like, but people will get [censored] at you for doing it.. not me, because they have to sift through all your crap to get to something readable.. Now look at the above posts, EVERYONE agrees that Denham hates the MFC.. its just a known fact, you can argue otherwise - but youll just look like a fool..again.. Ok, are we finished now Benny boy.. or do you provide me more amusement at your expense? Cause im happy just to move on without your characteristically incompetent rhetoric clogging up every thread.

Well there you go! Bens rushed in and saved the day and corrected our erroneous chatter.. Yay, thanks ben!

Mate, just lays the boots in at every opportunity.. Its sad really, because when carry that much poison around with you - inevitably youre the one that gets sick! Which in turn, could be a good thing, as it is greg denham were talking about! lol..

So you'd understand 3 is better than 2! Only gagging with ya.. At least youre positive mate, which is a refreshing change around here! ..and appreciated.