MadAsHell

Because as mentioned elsewhere, why would Gold Coast trade him now for that potential price, when they could hold onto him for 12 months, let him walk as a free abent and end up with another top 4 pick. It's a nice thought, but no chance Gold Coast would go for it. Plenty of players meet with other clubs and then stay where they are. Dustin Martin, Ling Jong. And Melbourne are confident Aaron Vandenberg will do the same.

I get where you're going. If one of the two 1st Rounders we get from Freo in a 2019 pick, then we'll have 2 picks that year to potentially trade for Kelly.

That's more then fair, and why you would need to look at the trade as a whole. If the trade ends up reading; IN: May, KK, Lockhart OUT: Garlett, Pick 6, Future 3rd Rounder (potentially pick 50'ish) It looks a pretty fair exchange to me as a whole.

Chris Yarran, Gary Rohan, Reece Conca, Caleb Marchbank, Sam Petrevski-Seton. One of those superstars? We're in Premiership window territory now. I'm more concerned about what improves us immediately as opposed to in 5 years. Don't forget, in order to get May this year, it needs to be a trade that entices Gold Coast to trade him now as opposed to holding onto him for 12 months. Pick 10 wont be enough for May.

Still think we'll end up with Pick 6 & a future first rounder. Pick 6 along with Garlett & future 3rd round pick gets us May, KK and rights to a VFL player (Lockhart). Gives us 2 first rounders the following year to either offer up for trade for Kelly or take to the draft.

Which is why we'll trade the earliest of the two picks we get from Freo. Otherwise there's no benefit in it for them trading May this year. I reckon it'll be Pick 5, future 3rd Rounder & Garlett for May, KK and VFL player (Lockhart).

Pick 5 or 6, Garlett & future 3rd Round Pick for May, KK & rights to a VFL player (Lockhart please).

While in theory I like your line of thinking, with the abolishment of the D-League, you can't have too many specialist rucks on your list, as you'll run out of places to play them. I think Gawn in the seniors, Preuss at Casey with Bradtke playing off the bench/resting forward and helping out in the ruck is about it as far as our specialist rucks will go. Otherwise expect additional ruck support to come from Weideman, Tom McDonald & Keilty.

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Would keep for mine, but certainly not a lock 22. Lets have someone like Wagner force him out of the team. Do agree with others that Viney should be sole captain next year.

I would expect we'll see something along the lines of; May & late pick (4th Round maybe) to Collingwood Moore & 2nd or 3rd Round Pick to Sydney Lloyd & Newman to Gold Coast Gold Coast should take the King twins in the draft at Picks 2 & 3 as Lynch & Mays replacements. Then stock up on more mature age talent (Miles & Horlin-Smith have been mentioned). Plus they should also seriously consider Brendan Goddard & making a play for Jarryd Roughead (Hawthorn).

You may be onto something Danelska. I think most of us expected Oscar to have signed by now, but so far nothing. Might be nothing in it, but who knows? Collingwood & Sydney are after key defenders. I hope there's nothing in it and Oscar stays, but at least on the defensive end we have Petty & Keilty coming through.

Garlett & 43 for Preuss & 63 sounds reasonable to me. Have to be prepared to pay a little overs for someone who has 2 years to run on a contract.

If Hogan requests a trade then we should trade him. However if no such request is made then he falls into our group of untouchables. Next year I expect Weideman to alternate between FF/CHF/2nd Ruck, Tommy Mc between the same positions + wing and Hogan between FF/CHF/Mid. Both Hogan & Tommy Mc could be used across CHB at times also. This will leave Frost & Lever as our key backs and Oscar will be the one who likely has to bide his time. We'll have options galore!

Won't be going anywhere unless he asks to be traded. Was at a pre-game function before the Round 20 Gold Coast match where Josh Mahoney mentioned how highly rated he was internally, and that they were looking to get him back into their 22. He just had a bad season is all. Started poorly and was dropped after the Richmond game. Started to build form in the VFL and was one of Casey's best in their Queens Birthday game, but injured himself at the final contest, putting himself out for 6 weeks. Finally got back for the Sydney game, only to then get injured again. The guy just needs a good pre-season. I rank him somewhere from 11-25 in our squad, so you want to keep him, at the very least to help drive competition for spots.

In theory I liks it, but I just don't see why he would want to come to us. I was expecting our target to be someone along the lines of Darcy Cameron, Billy Longer, Zac Smith etc. Someone who would know they're there as the number 2 guy for when Gawn's unavailable. Not someone who wants the number 1 gig now.

Reckon St Kilda will want more for him then what he's currently worth.

Don't support St kilda or know Billings or anyone else associated with St Kilda. Also not going to dispute the stats, but if he did have 14, they were an unremarkable 14. Wasn't noticeable till the 2nd as I said, although if u were there you're welcome to give your take.

Was there today and have to say despite his figures he was very unimpressive. Didn't sight him that much early when Frankston were still having a real crack, but from about half way through the 2nd when Frankston dropped their intensity that's when Billings started to get a lot of cheap hanball receives and strutted around like a peacock. Personally I'd be more keen on taking a chance on Nathan Freeman's hamstring then Billings on their output and intensity today.

Planning on heading to Trevor Baker Oval today to watch Sandy play my home town (Frankston). Will keep a close eye on Billings to see what his intent is like.

Classic win/win trade that one. We got an experienced mid which we lacked who has won a B&F for us and will bring up 100 club games this year. Both teams would be very happy I suspect.

Saw Fritsch play several times this year out at Casey and the kid has talent to burn. Brilliant in the air for his build, good initial acceleration without being Jayden Hunt like and he tackles with intensity. I'd be very suprised if Bayley doesn't make the grade and have no doubt he'll play senior footy in 2018 baring injury. We've got a beauty!

Something doesn't make sense to me about this trade. The rules are pretty clear that if you trade a future 1st Round pick, you can't trade any of your other future picks, yet somehow we're trading our future 1st & 4th Round Picks. http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions I'm not to concerned about the cost we've paid for Lever. Lets say worst case scenario, both teams finish in the same position as last year. It means we've paid Pick 10x2 (1395+1395) and a Pick 64 (101) which totals 2891. Adelaide have paid Pick 35 (522) a Pick 53 (233) which totals 755 leaving a shortfall of 2136 (Lever's worth) which falls inbetween Pick 3 & 4, which is probably close to what he'd be worth in a straight swap. All balances out for me.

This one slipped under the radar; http://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/afghanistan-ireland-granted-test-status-spells-aussie-uae-return-20170622-gwwurv.html Welcome Ireland & Afghanistan. Afghanistan will have to play in the UAE, however Ireland will just have to bring some venues up to standard. Wonder if this means we'll have to start with the top end tours again????

We both agree that defence seems to be his most natural position. But I encourage everyone to check out the footage of VFL Round 2 last year when it was Collingwood v Casey at Olympic Park. Was on the club website at the time. Keilty played the whole game in the ruck v Mason Cox, giving away about 15cm and 20+kg. I was really impressed at how well he competed in there. He probably wont play. I just think he should.