MadAsHell

The Age said negotiations for Essendon defender Michael Hibberd's move to Melbourne were not progressing, with the Demons insisting that the Bombers accept a second-round pick for next season rather than this year's second-round pick. I don't think we're going to be the ones to blink first.

He could rid himself of that reputation by accepting our 2017 2nd Round Pick.

Stewart is likely worth slightly more then Garland, however our 2017 2nd rounder is likely worth more then Pick 37 this year. That's how that element should work itself out. From Essendon's end if they think Hibberd is worth a 2016 2nd rounder (specifically 29) then 37 with Stewart should balance out. From our end we get what we want in that we can use our 2017 pick rather then this years, however also have to cough up Garland for that luxury.

On closer thought, any three way deal with GWS re: Stewart could be as simple as: MFC 2017 2nd Round Pick & Col Garland to GWS Stewart & Pick 37 to Essendon Hibberd to Melbourne We keep Pick 29 and Essendon get their precious 2016 2nd Round Pick.

I do hope there is still some good faithshown between the paties. For example if we relented and give them 29 this year then they'll give us something else with Hibberd. Eg Pick 41. If they accept next years Pick then we should throw Pick 57 their way or someone like JKH or Nibbler.

Good point. We could probably keep 57 or send it to GWS so they get something else to make it more appealing from their end. Essendon; OUT - Hibberd & 41. IN - Stewart & 29. GWS; OUT - Stewart & 37. IN - Garland, 41 & 57. Melbourne; OUT - Garland, 29 & 57. IN - Hibberd & 37. Use 37 & 68 at the draft.

With reports suggesting that James Stewart has nominated Essendon as his club of choice ahead of Carlton, maybe we could get involved seeing as Essendon are playing hardball re: 2nd Round Picks. For example we send Garland (Patfull replacement) to GWS & Picks 29 & 57 to Essendon GWS send Stewart to Essendon & Pick 37 back to us. Essendon send Hibberd to us & Pick 41 to GWS So for us it's Garland, Picks 29 & 57 out. Hibberd & Pick 37 in. Essendon it's Hibberd & Pick 41 out. Stewart & Picks 29 & 57 in. GWS it's Stewart & 37 out. Garland & Pick 41 in.

The fact no one from Essendon has sued Dank should tell you all you need to know.

Don't think Brisbane want him anymore as they've committed to Frost. I actually think Port Adelaide would be our best bet to trade with given the early retirement of Carlisle and they're light on for tall defenders anyway, Dunn & Pick 64 for Pick 47 I think is reasonable. As for Hibberd, I have no issue giving them what is currently Pick 28 and could fall to 30.

I hadn't heard that rumor. What was said?

The unfortunate thing with him being a WA boy and the Wizard playing over 100 games for both the Dees & Dockers is that one suspects Freo will have the inside lane.

From what i've seen of him, he seems to mainly shift between half back with short stints on a wing. Would love to see what he's capable of forward, but suspect he'll either be groomed for the Garland role or as a tall wingman. Or maybe both?

Given there's still restrictions on what the banned players can and can't do, he may not be allowed to officially name a club he wants to go to. Who knows?

Shifty?

70K a year less at Essendon. They offered a trigger clause to activate a 4th year.

Garland & Pick 27 to Gold Coast Pick 22 to Essendon Hibberd to Melbourne With Gold Coasts departures they'll be a bit lighter on in the midfield and may want to move Kolodjashnij in there. That would then free up the 3rd tall defender slot who can also play small when needed. Garland fots this build, and for an experienced player who's been in another clubs leadership group, Gold Coast may be willing to fall 5 spots in the 2nd round given the amount of picks they have?

What's this about Chris Heffernan?

I thought his 2004 was ok. 2003 & 2005 he was horrendous!

Not that i'm in favour of it, but would the club dare trade Salem and Pick 26/27 for Hibberd & Pick 19?

We didn't use any picks to get Lumumba, it was a straight playet swap. Clark to Cats, Varcoe to Pies, Lumumba to us. Has to be seen as a tick as Clark was never going to play for us again.

The only way that's true is if Essendon were offering him 655K a year for 4, as what I heard from a very good source was that Melbourne's offer is only 70K a year more.

Good on Gold Coast for making that type of play i say. Freo would have to seriously consider it. Would allow them to probably land McCarthy, Lobb, Brad Hill and probably still have a 1st Round Pick to use.

100% agree DC. They need to get back to each of the grounds having their own unique traits. Sydney & Adelaide used to turn sideways by days 4 & 5, the Melbourne pitch usef to die as the match went on and stay really low. Hobart was usually the flattest of the wickets, while Perth & Brisbane always had extra bounce and pace. How they can get back to producing these types of wickets with drop in's I don't know? But it needs to be looked at. The OX on radio the other day (tounge in cheek) suggested that they do away with the centre of excellence in Canberra and open up two campuses. One in Humpty Doo NT, to replicate the conditions of the subcontinent with dust pitches, and one on King Island Tasmania to replicate the UK.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/australia-must-pick-spinspecialist-batsmen-and-bowlers-for-subcontintental-tours-writes-ben-dorries/news-story/d19cb23bd7d413174e0047f79639f938 I'm glad to see this has finally been raised in the media.

They may not pass the no d!ck head policy.