MadAsHell

Agree with the above. Time to go all in at Casey IMO. Otherwise the alternative for near the city could be Brunswick Street Oval.

Don't overthink it. Cyril Rioli played 1 game for Box Hill in 2014 which was the Grand Final despite playing exclusively for Hawthorn when fit earlier in the year. Why could he do that?? Because Hawthorn were still alive in the AFL. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-21/footscray-beats-box-hill-to-win-vfl-grand-final/5758992

That's more around selection though isn't it? Joel Smith isn't an obvious replacement for Petracca. If they were to sub Petracca for Smith, Smith would need to go forward or back with one of those players then rotating into the midfield. If Dunstan was the sub, then maybe they would have made the change?

Playing devils advocate, I'd ask if we don't have good depth, why has our VFL team gone through the year dropping only the one game??? I agree the decision to keep Baker was a little odd? Maybe it was due to our lack of genuine wingmen? But Chandler was named sub several times in 2021 and the FD clearly rate him. Bedford has gone past him this year however. Personally if you're right in contention then I see why you might only want to make the minimum amount of list changes required from season to season. However if you're some way off then I agree, you want to regenerate the list with a much stronger brush.

@poita is right. While our AFL team remains alive, all players are eligible for VFL finals. So a win over the Lions on Friday Night in the AFL ensures we have a full list to choose from for the VFL Grand Final should we make it.

By my guessing it's quite simple. Daw has already retired and Mitch Brown will be desisted leaving 2 rookie spots. Rosman will be desisted and re-rookied while Chandler will be promoted which cancels eachother out. It sounds as though both Tomlinson and Bedford might be traded off the senior list at seasons end to other clubs while Baker will be delisted. That gives us 3 senior list spots and 2 rookie list spots. If we lose Jackson we can bring Grundy in for him and what happens from there on in with Hunt, Hibberd and Melksham can determine if we use more than 3 picks or target other trade options or DFA's.

They also share that population of support with another 32 NHL teams, 30 NBA teams, 30 MLB and 28 MLS teams. And that's just the other major codes.

Dam!

While I agree that he hasn't shown much at Carlton, I reckon that's Carlton playing him out of position and developing him poorly. Reckon we could turn him around.

Wouldn't be against Stocker as a DFA for some mudfield depth. Untapped talent. https://www.afl.com.au/news/837122/blues-delist-first-round-pick-mid-season-draftee

Optimistic of a good win on Saturday. We're tough to beat out at Casey Fields at the best of times and by my counting we could have up to 19 AFL listed players run out against the Lions. Throw in Jimmy Munro, Mitch White and Matt Buntine for support and we should have our 3rd Grand Final appearance in the VFL in seven years.

Both looked good in the VFL earlier today.

Not be surprised.

Nope. Casey Football club were assured of two finals at Casey Fields by the VFL after winning the minor premiership.

With Petracca's hair line fracture they're going to need to throw him forward IMO. He can play Melksham's role which just means we need some cover in the midfield. IN: Dunstan, Bedford* OUT: Melksham, Harmes* *Only if suspended. FB: Lever, May, Hibberd HB: Rivers, Petty, Salem C: Harmes*, Brayshaw, Langdon HF: Neal-Bullen, B. Brown, Spargo FF: Fritsch, Petracca, Pickett FOLL: Gawn, Viney, Oliver INT: Dunstan, Hunt, Jackson, Sparrow SUB: Bowey EMERG: Bedford*, J. Smith, Weideman

Nothing to be nervous about. We've been waiting for finals since the end of Round 10 and have been building nicely. Swans are an honest team who won't roll over for us, but I expect a clinical win of between 20-35 points as we start the flex our muscle with our superior finals game.

I'm not saying I'm a genius or nothing!😁

Lions for a backs against the wall win over Richmond by 2 points. Melbourne to show Round 23 was no one off and put in a clinical performance against a disciplined Swans team that aren't good enough by 31 points. Collingwood to continue their crazy run against the retirement home down the highway by 5 points. Fremantle to be just too strong and too disciplined for a Dogs team out of puff by 28 points.

I'd prefer De Koning from Carlton. But just two injury free years of a Gawn/Grundy combination in the ruck could be what finally gets us those 4 consecutive flags after we take care of business later this month.

Whether they needed points for Jamar or not is irrelevant. They still handed over a 1st Round Pick which is the whole point. Time will tell. And if Grundy goes for a 2nd round pick or less than I'll eat humble pie and admit I got it wrong. Pretty confident that won't be the case however. I think there's a bit too much wishful thinking on this site IMO.

It may have worked out that way as they had Jamar in the draft that year. But are they on the record saying they wouldn't have traded Pick 14 if it weren't for Jamar? I suspect not, meaning whatever the other circumstances that were happening at the time, they still traded a 1st Round Pick for a salary dump.

It's called net gain v net loss genius. Something Richo and before him Mahoney talked about all the time during trade period. We get Grundy for Jackson. Taking into account Jacksons upside and being younger then Grundy (Grundy being an AA ruck at his best). Our Pick 35 turns into 14 and Pick 53 turns into 48. Other picks could also be swaped. Filth shouldn't get a 1st Round Pick for Grundy as a salary dump I hear you say? So why did they get Pick 14 for Treloar back in 2020 as a salary dump? The one team in my scenario that comes out ahead is potentially Freo with Jackson and Pick 53 for Pick 14 and a future first round pick. Which is why other pick swaps can potentially occur. I don't want to lose Jackson anymore than the next supporter. But unlike some on here @mo64 it doesn't make me oblivious to other players values on the market and what history tells us occurs in these deals.

Except we're not giving them a 1st Round Pick in that instance, Fremantle are. All we do with them is swap our Pick 35 with their Pick 48.

While I'd prefer De Koning, I can certainly see the benefit in Grundy while we're trying to win flags in the immediate term. Dees send Jackson & Pick 53 to Fremantle and Pick 35 to Filth. Freo send Pick 14 to us and future 1st Round Pick to Filth. Filth send Grundy and Pick 48 to us. Melbourne lose Jackson, Pick 35 & 53 but gain Grundy, Pick 14 & Pick 48. Fremantle lose Pick 14 & Future 1st Round Pick but gain Jackson & Pick 53. Filth lose Grundy and Pick 48 but gain Pick 35 & Future 1st Round Pick.

I suspect that if it's with us that it will be a delist and re-rookie situation.