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And yet the smallest Melbourne crowd has twice the IQ and far less gaol time than the largest Collingwood crowd

Rugby League would give them a run for their money. From officials through to journalists and those players currently susended for assault the correct use of English is largely optional.

Is that why so many sports journalists are barely literate?

No Time for a Becks and a good lie down

what is "off field culture"?.. Fresh cow manure straight from the paddock

I thought you would have a ritualistic burning eaxh year, a Melbourne scaef suttee, after all it has been hanging around your neck long enough with little effect.

It is very hard o print caenders from yjr Middle Ages, much easier for Queenslanders to turn back their cloks 500 years/

Wait until you get to 40 years membership. They send you a nice letter and a small badge showing you have been a loyal member for forty years. It is a great help if you need authentification for phsyciatric hospital care whih is hard to obtain these days.

coin?

Gave away a player who can but kept a coach who can't

So we let go a player who can, but kept a coach that can't Pathetic

And what do you expect. The club has largely been a shambles since 1964 and probably a little before that. Melbourne were the first semi professional club who gained success on this basis and then rested on the laurels or should I say Caldwells until, inevitably, other clubs like Hawthorn and Carlton became thoroughly professional and we remained in a limbo between a Saturday afternoon outing and a fair dinkum battle both on and off the field . I'd refer anyone who doesn't believe this to read Brent Croswell's brilliant accounts of his time at Melbourne. Whatever Melbourne did to overcome their pathetic status was always five years behind the AFL leaders' benchmark. WE often improved but it was always not enough. In fact we have always been the NQRs. Many, like myself thought we had finally started to get our act together until the 2019 crash. Of course we are angry. Naturally football clubs, particularly professional clubs, and for this purpose I reluctantly include Melbourne in that category, don't like criticism especially a "crie de couer" from a long standing loyal supporter such as WYL. They would prefer us to yell loudly on the day and if beaten go home with a few consoling platitudes, such as better team won on the day or we would have won if Fred hadn't ruptured his heart muscle. I remember going to an after game wrap up at the SCG in the 1990s and the club members being told by an official that we did pretty well until we were overrun in the last quarter We were expected to swallow that.The fact is we dropped our bundle. I don't agree with everything WYL says but if it causes a few rankles among our more trusting and complacent supporters and even perhaps among the paid officials, who all should bear some scrutiny for the 2019 debacle, so much the better. More power to WYL's arm I say!

It is but not a very good one, it is a gerund a noun made out of a verb. It is part of "corporate speak" which signals that [censored] (uncensred - bovine excrement) is to follow. The letter was a very good example with a sweetener thanking us, a vague admission of guilt and then the fog drifts in, with no clear defined remedies. "What we have learnt" would be far better because it is direct and wouldn't have sounded like a spiv selling the Sydney Harbour Bridge

I did that once many years ago. My question was on an administrative cockup. The answer I got was pathetic, comments like this is old news and a hysterical reply from one of the passing parade of incompetents that the club has been inflicted with over the years. He didn't even answer the question. Then the microphone was ripped from my hand by a lackiy from the venue. Never again

I am not sure whether the Melbourne medical staff were remiss here but I certainly agree with the sentiments in the last two sentences. NQR sums up a long history of a lot of Melbourne's operations- from recruiting to simple things like administration and membership. My own personal experience was trying to get to an MFC lunchon matchday and being confronted with the bouncers who told me I couldn't enter the area where the lunch was held I eventually talked my way in because I didn't want to waste an average to good feed but soon retreated to the sanctuary of the Bullring in the MCC as I wasn't made to feel that welcome. I could elaborate on any number of administrative incompetencies but it serves no real purpose as they are now past history. I also think Peter Jackson did a magnificent job in cleaning up a dreadful mess and just hope it doesn't relapse. At times it feels like being in a third world country. I did read an article on the Brisbane Bears which praised their medical team as contributing to their lack of injuries, objectively the same could not be said for us. It certainly is one aspect of our operations that bears close scrutiny.

That really is nitpicking Jack is not a Rhodes scholar nor should he have to carry a thesaurus to press conferences

Yes I like that idea may do the same thing

It's you

Not "A Day in the Life" I hope

No completely justified. An apology should be sent to each and every member.

And, although I always try to stay to the bitter end, on their part a very good choice. Who wants to put up with the derision of the opposition on a very sad trek home. Who wants to risk being unable to control their basic urges and suffer the full consequences of the legal system. when the bludgers prance off the field. And who in their right mind would want to set eyes on the statue that passes for our coach. A wise move

What a terrible thread, it serves no real purpose and can only harm the club. Of all the clubs that have suffered from this accusation Melbourne has possibly fared the worst and largely through the flippancy of one of its paid officials. I had hoped that we were all a little bit more mature these days and yes, that does include the supporters. I don't mind our members and supporters being frustrated with our performance this year and expressing their feelings in the strongest terms. I can understand long suffering members dropping their membership, after all 55 years of failure is very hard to take. But raising this sort of nonsense is absolutely illconsidered, pathetic and contrary to the club's interests.. Firstly would the person that raised this explain exactly what they mean by tanking, for example does risking our players' health constitute by playing them with niggles constitute tanking,? Does playing inexperienced kids with potential rather than experienced players who have continually dissapointed constitute tanking? And does selecting players in positions where they have not played before constitute tanking? Or does he really mean that the players aren't trying? Olisik, I have read a lot of your posts and I usually refrain from commenting because others here usually do a good job in rebutting your histrionics, as interesting as they are, but in this case I feel obliged to comment because they serve absolutely no useful purpose and as others have pointed out for a number of reasons that we really have dissapointed this year because of genuine on and off field short comings. There is a word that rhymes with tanking that comes to mind but I will leave that one aside.

I do appreciate explicit comments but can you elaborate please? Did you have a vision or an itch that thunderbolt like led to this revelation

I did upvote this as normally grammar police are pains in the backside, but under the circumstance a discussion on the use of the subjunctive may be more enjoyable than talking about Melbourne