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Wow they are big changes. And a big statement with Grimes as well. Very happy with the changes. I hope Grimes can turn his game around.

I order to answer the OP I say yes.

Failed test is the clincher

We didn;t even get your wet lettuce! THere was no lettuce at all!!

Actually dingbat it isn't a comment, it's a question.

WTF????? That would be even more outrageous. The directors should be jailed for allowing this to go on. If it happened in my workplace I would be in jail....

Based on what exactly?

If the case failed because Dank , Alavi and Charter etc did not give sworn statements then there is a massive issue. If the legislation cannot compel Dank, Alavi, Charter etc to give evidence then the legislation is woefully inadequate. The burden of proof on ASADA becomes ridiculous and unworkable. The drug cheats win.

When has he us any favours?

The tribunal said they conclusively did not take the 'good' Thymosin but could not prove they took the bad Thymosin. Hardly a ringing endorsement of the EFC position They are the scum of the earth.

Looking at the bigger picture, this is actually a massive slap in the face to ASADA and WADA and Australia's reputation and a 'clean' sporting nation. And throw in the integrity of world sport (and no I don't think this is an over reaction). There is a huge amount of global interest in this and WADA and the Australian government should be very concerned that a tribunal of the code has come to this decision. A bit like Cycling and Lance Armstrong where a code will not call out itself for fear of damaging the hand that feeds it. What is not in disupte is this: They ran a sophisticated, systematic and clinical supplements regime that they had no records of and involved thousands of injections to players and staff. The people in charge of administering this were unqualified The club Doctor had no oversight Some of the substances they have admitted to using were not approved for human consumption There appeared to be no records kept The players did not fail a doping test but had an extraordinary and unprecedented soft tissue injury rate that is symptomatic of peptides and human growth hormone use The players put on massive amounts of bulk over a pre-season They self-reported The world will laugh whenever Australia says we are a clean nation. The world will laugh at our holier-than-thou stance when other countries are found guilty of doping. The lessons are simply this: Don't keep records Don't fail a drug test Wade Lees must be really farked off.

Just make sure not to keep records. What a farce.

Eddie won't be happy....

Which is why they must go for 2 years. I have said it before but if it was the Chinese swim team we would all be outraged. If they claimed it was a rogue doctor or coach and won 10 swimming gold medals what would us self-righteous, holier-than-thou Australians be saying?? This should be no dfferent. Off with their heads. And sorry Jobe you cheat, hand back the Brownlow. And while we are at it you cheating scum of a club how about we take the 1993 premiership off you because you were cheating the salary cap....

3 days AFTER your training camp had finished....

Disagree with this. This was a systematic black ops programme. They are all guilty. No-one spends $600-700k and doesn't know what it was spent on and the results it achieved. To think otherwise you would have to believe that clubs don;t monitor their players to within an inch of their lives for skinfolds, blood tests, miles run, food intake etc etc. That suspends belief.

That sounds like it's gotta be the go then.....

Post on BF saying Brad Hardie says he knows what the story could be but can't say because of lawyers. Someone suggested he was referring to the fact you can cut cocaine with clenbuterol but a quick search on wikipedia suggests its heroin that gets cut with clenb not cocaine. FWIW....

That would be insane. We were leading in 9 games in the last quarter and you are saying 'what if we didn't win any?' Can't believe I am responding to this....

Surely we deserve ANZAC day now??

Howe will have to be the sub you would think....

Two or more in a team.. Oh Gill, 3 days out from the season and its looking ugly already....

Emirates will come to the party I'm sure.....

Just take ANZAC day off them right now. What a showcase that will be....