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Yeah yeah talk to the hand.. I mean I get what you are saying but frankly we have heard it before. hey this was another line in the sand game. Dawsey told us. Fme we must have had at least 25 of those in the past 4 years. Words are meaningless and cheap. We deserve action on the field. Something that says 'there is a soul', ' there is a pulse'.

Ok this is not a thread to say we should have picked Beveridge over Roos but in light of the extraordinary tactics of the Bulldogs I think there are fair questions to ask of our coaching staff. For those that didn't see it the Bulldogs nearly pulled off an incredible victory over Freo by conceding the ruck dual. Freo won the hitouts 69 to 13. They used Goodes and others as a ruck and loaded their fwd line with talls and effectively played a loose man in defence. It was very unconventional thinking. And it nearly won them the game as they were level with a few minutes to go. Which brings me to Roos and the Melbourne coaching staff. Melbourne were never going to be able to play the way they wanted to against a team like Hawthorn. They are tough, well drilled and play a team zone game (‘Our back six are there to protect the goals’). We were well below our best 22 and coming off two bruising encounters with the Swans and Freo. We have been smashed by Hawthorn on the previous 11 occasions. Mitchell, Roughead and Hale in particular kill us (as do Lewis and Hodge when they rare playing). So what did we do that was different. How did we go about playing against a team that performs like this? What did we do to plan for what was predictable at the outset. Did we plan to smash Mitchell? Did we plan to double team Roughhead? Did we do any planning at all? Nup. What we got was same old same old. I could have written the script a month ago and been bang on. We must be the easiest team in the league to play against – even Carlton and GC are as inept as us. Not only do we do the same stuff week in week out but we have no leaders other than Jones and TMac who can stand up and win their position against their opponent. We don’t do the basics right - like have a tall on the back line to kill a ball that comes in for goal – or man up when the opposition has the ball, or hit targets from 20m away, or run and spread when we have the ball. How about we even stick a few tackles? FFs we are second to the ball often enough. Tackling is all about intent and desire. Yes there is technique but it’s largely the first two. Brayshaw has it in spades and he is a six gamer. Words can’t describe how disillusioned I am with this football club. They are spineless and heartless. My kids have given up (‘why would you want to follow that bunch of losers Dad’) and I don’t blame them. I would too if I could. But I don’t have to watch the crap they dish up every week and I won’t be for some time. They can come back to me when they have won two or heaven forbid three in a row and have some semblance of personal pride and our club isn’t the laughing stock of the competition. What would Luke Hodge do with Jack Watts? What would Joel Selwood do with Jeremy Howe? Why do our players think it is acceptable to play 5m away from their man when we don’t have the ball? Why can’t they ‘zone’ like every other team zones. There are so many questions because we are so inept. Basic questions that go to the heart of simple football. Keep the ball from the opposition and give it to one of your own players. Where is the simple pride in performance? Where is the desire to beat your opponent? Where is the desire to take frustrations out by driving your opponents head into the turf when you tackle him? So what re the coaching staff doing? Telling their players to 'forget it' and 'we won't learn anything from reviewing that'. Really?? Why is it that Luke Beveridge and even Alan Richardson can get their teams playing exciting inspiring football? Who picked that at teh start of the season?? Why can’t Melbourneplay like that? Is it because we as supporters don’t demand it? Is it because the administration of the club doesn’t demand it? Is it because of the lack of on-field leadership at the club? Is it because the coaches are stuck in a time warp. The coaching staff need a serious rocket up their collective backsides. They need to challenge each every play to do one task. Beat their man. They are being shown up by two rookie coaches. Big time. I don’t what the answers are but I know what I see every week. I can’t take this team stuffing up my weekends any more. I have better things to do in life. Things that are actually enjoyable.

Actually it was down to Ian Dicker.

Then you are just as ignorant as Kennett. Do you actually know who is on the board? Do you know what the role of the board is? do you know how long the board has been in place? Suggest you go and look it up.

Up to half time yesterday, 75% of OUR entries into OUR forward line ended up as a Hawthorn goal. Think about that. What an unbelievable stat. Its not just the midfield but its a huge part of why we are far ked. Simple things like picking up your opponent when the other team has the ball. We cant be arsed to do this after 9 wretched years. I don't know what it takes to recruit footballers that can do the basics like hitting targets and BEAT THEIR MAN but unless it happens in the next 24 months we are gone as a football club.

What do you do after a crap day at the office. Have a go at them for their performance but not this.

The Hirds should read the article on the HSun about Neale Daniher. He is a champion The filthy snivelling narcissists at camp Hird wouldn't have a clue.

Why TF would you want to hear from the President? What is he going to do? In case you haven't worked it out this is the worst time for the President to speak because every time in the past they have done so the club has ended up in deeper turmoil. His job is to ensure the right people are in place and shut the hell up.

You clearly don't get it Dave Suggest you watch a bit more closely. No one blames Watts for us losing. They blame him for being pizzpoor with his efforts. Heck its so bad he asked to be dropped himself. So don't blame us smart alec. We aren't the ones getting paid good money to run around living out our boyhood dreams.

Just remind me again how many 'line in the sand games' we have had in the last 8 years. Dawes should never speak again,.

Howe's total stats for the past 2 weeks 8 kicks 3 marks 2 tackles Far koff

Howe's total stats for the past 2 weeks 8 kicks 3 marks 2 tackles

The basics are all about intent and desire. I don't care if they stuff them up I care if they dont show intent and desire. It goes to the heart of the matter. There is something rotten in the state of denmark. Its been there for a few years and its still there. The only thing you can do is root out the perpetrators and never let them play again. The danger is we may not have a club left. There is nothing to defend of this shallow pea-hearted mob that call themselves professional footballers,

To 3/4 time these were the standouts Howe 2k 9hb 3m 1tackle Dawes 4 1 2 0 Vandenberg 5 2 0 2 Mitchie 5 5 1 3 Toumpas 4 4 0 0 Lumumba 5 3 2 2 MJones 3 5 2 3 Drop all of them.

Of course the result is not a surprise, What is a surprise is how [censored] soft and pathetic we are. We don't tackle we don't chase we can't hit targets we can't even man up.

Incompetent bungling heartless soulless gutless incapable unskilled weak insipid spiritless feeble characterless vapid submissive fainthearted chicken hearted lily-livered pusillanimous cowardly useless

Watts might be smarter than we give him credit for. Asking to be dropped this week might have saved him....How pathetic we are as a club.

Win? Are you [censored] kidding??? How about chasing and tackling. And manning up when we don't have the ball??? We can't/won't do the basics. They are a pea-hearted bunch of losers.

Any chance we can lay a tackle in the f50? Apparently 75% of he time we get it in there the Hawks get a goal. Wow. Just Wow. What a stat What a bunch of lazy assed players we have. Useless. Hardly takes skill to tackle. Its intent and desire. This team doesn't have it. CLean the list out again f&*&^ me

Mitchie tagging Mitchell?

Goal.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pedo contested mark i50...

Wrong about Brayshaw. It is fine. Watch closer..

The sun is over the yard arm Hemingway. Time for a drink.........or two.....cheers

Nah its easy. Go to the front page with the list of forum topics and click where it says 677 views. Comes with all the posters and the number of times they have posted. You don't actually think I counted them all do you?