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After all the hand-wringing that went on last night saying we had lost Goodwin when Sanderson was sacked and now we find Goodwin has signed with us, I will discount all pessimistic posts. Too many of our supporters wear the opposite of rose-coloured glasses. The usual justification for that attitude is 'who wouldn't given the last decade'. The counter to that is 'we are now under new management'.

Only till someone less high-profile does it.

Some players premeditate so often that it becomes instinctive.

My money says he will get off, but it won't be the right decision.

Club culture may have led him to leave. It was the manner of him doing so that p!ssed people off.

` It looks like the we now have the people who can teach players to swim. But I bet they'd like a few more players who at least know how to float to be added to the group attending swimming classes. Everyone agrees that just relying on special assistance is no formula for success. But take what you can get as long as it doesn't breed endless reliance on assistance. It is clear to me we are not currently in danger of that. Has North dwelt as much in the cellar as we have over the last 8 years? I may have missed that.

I trust you are equally sick of getting the negative handouts the AFL hands out in other ways. You will probably say if we fix things we won't be in that situation either. When we are as powerful as C'wood that will probably be true. But will we sink first? While I agree 1 pick won't probably make a significant difference (it is a lottery anyway) but your position seems similar to telling a drowning man that it is better if we don't throw you a life jacket while lobbing the odd brick at them to toughen them up. A better course is to throw the life buoy a few feet away and tell him to swim to it.

Well yes if nothing else substantial is done to promote equalisation. However there probably are better ways than that. Let's face it, anything that promotes equalisation will be perceived by the big clubs as screwing them. And it will be too. Almost by definition. The only question is, will they see a decent 18 team competition to be in their interest to such an extent as to outweigh that.

The argument is that that they only got pick 19 shows that FA is somehow OK. The argument that FA won't negatively affect clubs like our is simply wishful thinking mixed with hairy-chested bravado saying that 'we don't need help, we should harden up'. Sort of thing you say to a drowning man when you are refusing to throw him a life buoy.

I agree we haven't done too badly from FA to date. But the writing is on the wall that unless the AFL does something, FA will clobber small poorly performing clubs in future.

Gosh WJ, you don't expect such a well reasoned approach to have any effect of those money-grubbers at the AFL HQ.

Whines about Wines. GIVE IT A REST. Beat yourselves up over something else for a change. Watts hasn't had a run for a while.....

Yes, that struck me as abysmal journalism. His source effectively is that he has said it a few times already. I'll say it just once - he is a fool. Evidence: what he said.

Gotta love this from: http://thenewdaily.com.au/sport/2014/09/10/football-loyalty-well-complicated/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The+New+Daily+Thursday+11914+Aus+Super&utm_content=The+New+Daily+Thursday+11914+Aus+Super+CID_8bf9e0bdfb41ffddbed8676185cfa7df&utm_source=&utm_term=Football%20and%20loyalty%20Well%20its%20complicated Matthew Lloyd feels Paddy Ryder owes Essendon because of how much they put into him. The ruckmans camp feels Essendon owes Ryder because of how much they put into him.

Well I would care if he was a neo-nazi. But for all his self-promotion, holier than thou or whatever it is that annoys so many people, the causes he supports are pretty much universally mainstream. So the only question is: can he play football better than other options the club has. I'll leave that to the club to decide (good of me I know).

Or even better, name 5 from the first 20 picked who will be stars and 5 who will be duds and check back in 5 year's time.

Even worse, Young focuses entirely on the history of the failed move to Freo and castigates Lyon for not focussing in the next finals game. He said little about how absolutely inappropriate it was for Lyon to say MC was not a well young man. What a snake.

True, but we can expect more of that for a few years until we all get used to FA. After that, when all questions of loyalty have become irrelevant, posters won't be upset but will just expect players to do the dirty on the club. Sad really.

Depends on other club's estimate of the risk vs gain. Assuming we are offering him a rookie-like start, all the other clubs have to do is offer a modest increase over a rookie assuming they have a spot on their list. For MC's manager that is a win and for MC himself he has to balance the extra loot and a start in a new environment with the extra pressure that will be on him. Although like everyone else I don't know the multitude of factors in his actual situation, my feeling is that he'd be mad not to be eased back into things by whatever mechanism the MFC suggests.

Simplest answer is that we gave him the impression he wasn't 100% certain to play next year.

And Troy B.

I think you meant worthwhile, but erstwhile may be more correct.

Imagine how our players are feeling right now (unless they know more than we do).

Second sentence is true. But if anyone made a decision based on what is posted here, they are a fool.

Whatever the outcome, regardless of any outrage, jabberw has hit the nail on the head. (I guess those super-optimists who always were sure he was coming back to us will think differently).