sue

I wish he would (but doubt he would).

I think you only have a limited time after making the post to edit it.

You don't get to where King was at Geelong without being experienced and familiar with what a coach does. So if you want to nitpick, perhaps I should have said 'an experienced person in coaching circles'. He was even interim coach at GC for 7 games and his cv indicates he has had more senior coaching related experience than probably anyone here. And sure, if anyone makes a blunder, its a blunder, uppercase or not. In the absence of independent evidence that King is blunder-prone, I'd assume he did not make such a blunder given the circumatnces I outlined. As I said it was of course possible Oliver was given the Casey ultimatum since we had no direct evidence either way. I just doubted it. As for May, ageing players during a rebuild are always going to be told that as part of caring remarks such as "maybe you should look somewhere else". His circumstances were different than Oliver's so it doesn't add much weight to our guesses as to what was said to Clarrie.

While it is possible Oliver posted an image of himself in a Casey jumper to indicate that King made a "Casey threat', it's hardly proof. Oliver may have just thought that was a way of emphasising he did not want to play a new role - "I guess I'll be Casey bound - see pic". It doesn't mean there was a direct threat from the coach. But if it was true such a threat (implicit or explicit) was made, it is more likely that an experienced coach really wanted to get rid of him rather than that he erred in how he handled Oliver in the meeting.

I too would like to know the basis of King supposedly telling him he'd be playing at Casey. Why would he say such an inflamatory thing unless they had an acrimonious meeting. Which of these is more likely: He said 'you may have to play a new role'. OR: He said 'you may have to play a new role and if you don't like it you'll be at Casey'. ? Surely he'd say 1. first. And if Oliver replied 'but I'm hopeless at playing any other role, or just won't' why would King mention Casey? - surely he'd make apporpriate soothing coaching noises 'we can work through that etc etc) I'd be surprised if any experienced coach would issue the Casey 'threat' even if Oliver gave a very offensive response to 1. Why should I (as an ignorant outsider) assume King would not cool things down. So my feeling is that IF they did have an acrimonious meeting, then King wanted him gone for other reasons (which I don't know about, but some here seem to). If King wanted him, he'd have kept the conversation cordial.

Of course he's gone. But the doings of an ex-MFC player will always be of interest to many supporters, especially in the case of a star ex-player. So I'm happy to continue to read this thread. If anyone really wants to let it go, there is a simple solution.

Not close at all. (Is there a sarcasm emoji?)

Some doom-mongers on here just don't know the meaning of the word 'close'.

A new sneaky tactic: They could explain all that to oppo players during the game. The opponent would be so confused they would lose all concentration on the game.

Cool down - I understand you have good reason to be sensitive given some of the crud you get thrown at you. I enjoy and follow your posts, but I wouldn't remember whether you said you didn't ask Judd or if he volunteered it or whatever. I'd guess Ethan T didn't remember either and I think you may be reading too much into the use of the word 'you'. I

GW responded to my request for a list of nicknames (and player names-numbers, since the AFL in their wisdom have yet to allow clubs to publish that data) so that I could follow who was being talked about in this training thread. I thank her for that. I don't think it has affected the rest of this thread much and the odd reference to nicknames is surely part of almost any thread. But it would be good though to have a nicknames thread as DD36 suggests so we don't have to search for that info when this particular training thread is out of date.

I'm lost. If anyone could provide a list of players by number, name, nickname(s), and abbreviation(s) I'd be very grateful - especially for the new players.

see Adonski's post about 6 posts back

Surely that says something in itself.

makes you wonder if the MFC's drafting policy shouldn't be based on assuming the Devils will scoop all the talent in the short term. https://archive.md/https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/a-footy-club-meant-to-unite-tasmanians-is-bitterly-dividing-them-20251024-p5n50t.html