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6. Max Gawn 5. Clayton Oliver 4. Christian Petracca 3. Jayden Hunt 2. Nathan Jones 1. Bayley Fritsch

Last year Gawn's hit out to advantage rate was 35-36%, this year it is currently at 32.5%. He is winning only 50% of ruck contests though this year which I'm certain is well down on last year, so he is slightly less effective at winning hit outs this year and doing slightly less with them.

It doesn't automatically follow that points from stoppages is indicative of laziness on behalf of our midfield core. We are still the number one clearance team in the competition but have dropped from 2nd to 17th in contested marking and from 1st to 11th in inside 50 marks. Scores from stoppages against could just as much an indicator of opposition efficient ball use as it is a black mark against the work ethic of the midfielders. Of course that could be an ingredient.

Yes but you are not correctly valuing either of the two trades and your way of viewing them is hyperbolic. The Lever trade is nowhere near a trade of Lever for a top 10 and a top 5 pick. The pure picks traded was Lever, picks 35 and 47 for picks 12 and 19. What actually happened is most easily represented in two parts. 2017 draft we got Lever and Petty for Darcy Fogarty (FWIW I think we would have drafted Zac Bailey or Matthew Ling) and 2018 we forego the rights to pick 19(most likely would have taken Liam Stocker who was taken with that pick) in exchange for the ownership of pick 47 which we on traded to St Kilda to move up the draft. If we had done the trade of pick 19 with Carlton wed be needing to swap picks with them at this year's draft.

6. Angus Brayshaw 5. Max Gawn 4. Clayton Oliver 3. Bayley Fritsch 2. James Harmes 1. Jayden Hunt

It also allows him to play significant game time in the ruck at that level. Would suggest he will play mainly for the Stingrays whilst Preuss is at Casey and back up Wale - Buxton if and when Preuss plays in the seniors.

Bradtke is playing for the Dandenong Stingrays this weekend.

Ben Ainsworth or Tom Papley would be decent targets to trade for.

Comfortably my most disliked player in over 30 years of supporting the club with his unnecessary look away handballs and tackling people in congestion that are going to be tackled anyway. The worst part of him is that he refuses to put his head in the hole or to bodyline the ball or the players he is tackling. He misses and doesn't stick so many tackles that would actually mean anything because of this and he never safely wins disputed ball. An absolutely horrific player who looks half decent when we are dominating but who is a conman of the highest order.

6. Clayton Oliver 5. Angus Brayshaw 4. Max Gawn 3. Jack Viney 2. James Harmes 1. Christian Salem

Wouldn't count out him playing down back as well. Cats have Dahlhaus, Myers, Ablett, Atkins and Parfitt all rolling through their forward fifty and they were playing a lot of 2 tall four small last week with Gary Rohan and Danger mixed in. Lockhart may come in to do a job down back, maybe try and go with Atkins, Myers and Dahlhaus if Jetta and Hibberd are occupied with Ablett and Danger. Could be In: May, Lockhart Out: Frost Hore if they decide KK needs another week. Could also play as forward to of course.

6. Christian Salem 5. Angus Brayshaw 4. James Harmes 3. Jake Melksham 2. Clayton Oliver 1. Max Gawn

They don't have many talls at all.

I thought Keilty showed enough to be an ok emergency third ruckman if it got to that point - The question is would any of the state league ruckman make any sort of difference if we had a ruck injury crisis. The player most thought was the best mature age ruckman in the draft Darcy Fort has looked horrible for Geelong.

Strongish side - new ruckmans name is Wale-Buxton FYI

Agree with this. Unfortunately despite his good attributes - high effort, endurance, great clubman - he has major deficiencies. He doesn't crack in, he takes circular approaches to the football and to his opponent so he very rarely ever bodylines the ball or the man to put himself in danger. He is actually one of the softest players in the side. He is poor overhead and not a one touch footballer or a good user by foot. What he does OK is create an outnumber to be able to lock the ball in He is clearly instructed to take on a under 12s approach whereby he just chases the ball to add number to the contest and he does that very well to lock the ball in. This is where his tackle stats come from. Unfortunately, the Eagles cruelly exposed this tactic in the first quarter of the preliminary final.

It's Liam Wale-Buxton - been a dominant Eastern Football League ruckman the last few years with Vermont and for the Tiwi Bombers in the offseason.

Seecamp never played with Haydn Robins

Not sure if been mentioned but he has a BOG Three Brownlow vote game on Kennedy.

Does that mean all the posters on Demonland should never appraise player or coach performances?

Kent had a top 10 best and fairest vote per game time position this seAson. Small forward is a weak position at the club. With so many delistings, it seems a waste to effectively lose him for nothing when there is no list size pressures.

Fit and with any continuity he was best 22 - its a horrible trade.

Super quick. If he can find a bit more composure, would be handy. More versatile than many think.

The Eagles dont play fumbly defensive forward dribblers who cant kick and refuse to take a straight line at the ball or the body.

6. James Harmes 5. Clayton Oliver 4. Aaron VandenBerg 3. Christian Petracca 2. Joel Smith 1. Angus Brayshaw