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I can't say I know much about it but I have heard the same thing recently. And with Brad Green talking about players needing to lift their professionalisum it really dosen't suprise me.... Dare I say it might explain why there are a few noses out of place at the club this year? Surely no one on here can defend the players if true....

Spot on Diablo, the board and CEO will live or die by this decision. Nothing is giong to change it - and there is no solid evidence that it should be changed. They need to keep funding the FD to give them the resources to build a strong team, and the inhabitants are getting impatient!!

Under appreciated post............. hahaha like it

Another very good post in this thread - spot on KC I think you will find Neeld is after these sorts of players (per highlighted txt) - I believe this to be our new philosophy and the key characteristic to competitive hard edged teams I also believe at the moment the MFC lacks an abundance of these players

Great post Striker - my views exactly Adelaide were an impressive unit yesterday

I agree..... But you also forget it is easier to go to the draft (unless you are the MFC ffs even Richmond got cotchin) and draft and develop quality mids then it is to draft a quality Key forward. Again look at the MFC - how many good quality key forwards have we drafted lately??? And how long do they take to develop??? Get Cloke

Excellent post!!

Sadly I agree - I think we have been guilty of following the trends for a long time. However I do not get that feeling this time with Neeld. Most premiership teams do have the two big forwards..... see Pennant St dee's post

You need to start finding some names to put to these statements - vague statements do not win an argument

Sadly it looks like you just want to blame anyone but the playing group..... The Crowbots may have gotten stale under NC - but shite they were also good for a long period

You make fair points ADC - In this istance I can't disagree too much with what you have said. I have stated in earlier posts (ages ago) that anyone involved in '186' should fall on their sword and leave the club - player or administrator. What has happened as i've seen it is that a new FD has stepped in headed by Sugar Healy and run by Mahoney, Viney, Neeld and Craig (new or newly promoted). They are slowly weeding out out the playing group - I have a feeling a few favourites will leave as they don't like the harder new regime (which explains why players have stalled or have improved - the ones who accept the new regiem will flourish, while the ones who do not will go - same as every club) As for the admin side it's hard to sum up who was right or wrong - I don't know if it is right some have kept their jobs - from an outsiders view I do not think the CEO or any other admin staff are not competent at their jobs - they are jus lucky to have kept them after 186

Scrutiny has been put on the whole football department since '186'. I think the club has evaluated the situation and moved on.......... As for the players - I was at the ground that day - I wanted to punch everyone of them, I don't know if you were there but i have never been more upset in my life at a football game, and I will never forgive anyone involved ever for what happened that day.............. As for the rest of your statement - After last night's response I am not sure how you can continue with your fact-less statements. If the club was/is divided - why are these people not stepping up now???

I disagree with this little bt - Pedantic I know but I think it is relevant to this debate There is a business element and the football department in every clube structure - The football department is run to win game/preimerships and the business side is to finance the clube (clearly) but the overall goal as you put it should be to win games/premierships. in this structure the board are accountable for all football club matters - and the CEO is employed to run the 'business'. I think in the past this position has been blurred to ir's role as we (MFC) has not had the resources to run an efficent structure. Sorry fan that may have been what you meant but I agree wholeheartedly with everything else you said - This club owes a lot to it's extremly loyal supporter base

Very true old dee...... Lucky for us the finals are upon us and this one might slip under the radar?? I hope that is what the AFL are thinking hahaha But in all seriousness if they sanction us - surely they have to look at Carlton, Hawks, Pies, Dogs, Saints and anyone else who has received a priority pick? This is Watergate esc.... surely no one single entity is to blame and the AFL CEO will have to fall on his sword??

Like WJ Surely the Dees have had their fair share of bad luck this year!!!

Thinking about it now I will be very interested in the final result, just to see how competitive we are becoming. We haven't been flogged for a while (sydney off the top of my head was the last time) this game will either give the Neeld haters more bait or support the positive argument that we are getting better.. It could be an interesting game after all!!

I am all for us winning the next 2 games there is no argument there..... But what your saying is that you'd rather win because you'd rather take Viney at 5 rather then 3 as you think that is where he should be rated in the draft??? I think you should leave that worry to the recruitement staff. Taking Viney at 3 4 or 5 dosen't make a difference IMO

I can't say my information is 100% correct, it's only what i've heard from people in the industry (non MFC)....... What actually happens could be completely different - I'd be very happy if GC weren't intereted.... I do know for 100% that we won't let Viney go to another club

x 2 brother

I think we are a sneaky chance if we can find someone to stand up and kick some goals and play a consistant 4 qtrs..... But as i've said in other posts I am not going to hold my breath and be let down again this season haha We've played some good footy and some pretty poor footy lately it will be an interesting match in more ways then 1 I will also be interested in the off feild hand shaking - Will McLardy pay Db a visit/???? haha

That was my question I am posing to America de cali - I want Cloke at the Dees and or any player that can help us win now..... America de cali was suggesting we develop through the draft

I agree with your points we should be looking to win.... But reality is the Crows have something to play for and for most of the year we have been disfunctional. I will be at the game so I am hoping a good preformance (and I do think we have been getting batter) but I am not going to hold my breath. My other point is that no matter where we finish on the ladder I don't think it will influence where we get Viney. I believe from what I have heard (non MFC sources) that Melb will be forced to take him with our first active (whatever the non compensation picks are called) pick

I guess the simple question is do you want to bring in another key figure and attempt to win games now??? Or develop through the draft for 2, 3 or 4 more years. The latter is what you are purposing

Sounds like someone forgot their medicine................. or needs to go see someone I like how your argument is that we need to fail to succeed - I think you shoul consider supporting Freo or the Dogs or maybe even the Saints - they love failure PS - i am glad we are a shadow of the side we we;re last year - winning easy games is great, winning flags is what we should be about - Unfortunetly people like you can't see that the club has to take a step backwards to build something special.... Agian if you don't like it go support the Dogs, Saints or Failo

Don't stress brother... This is the football department's and clubs decision - and they will live and die by this same sword I am in the get Cloke camp.... wheather he wants to come to the Dees is another question