Lord Travis

Rance just gave away a 50 for smacking a bloke in the head after he'd already marked it. He might be the biggest dog in the AFL. Such a scumbag!

It'd be nice if the media and commentators didn't jizz themselves whenever Alex Rance appears on a screen. Decent player, but he's been average this year. The commentators were just singing his praising for being near a contest, as if that somehow did something. When he actually entered the contest he gathered the ball, shat himself and got tackled. Was comical. Should've been a free kick against but because he's a protected species they did a ball up instead. Bloke's a dog. I'll never forget the king hit on Watts last year. He'll forever be a scumbag in my eyes for that cowardly act.

It would be bad for the game if that rule change happened. We'd see lots of cases like last week where Goddard just followed the ball out of bounds instead of taking possession as he was hoping for a deliberate out of bounds free kick or did not want to get tackled by Viney. Lowering stoppages around the ground would make the game even more frantic and cause skill levels to drop even further as players would be even more fatigue. Let's hope the rule change does not happen. If people want to want a sport with a lack of contests they should go watch soccer.

Tigers have jumped the Doggies in the first quarter. Interesting to see if the Dogs can pull themselves back. They haven't been great this year.

They'd ask for a first or second rounder. Elliott is nearly 25 years old and still can't stay on the park. He's a decent talent, but hardly worth giving up good picks for. We have a number of small, and Garlett is already better than Elliott. We need depth for our talls and ideally another good key defender like Steven May. If we landed him over the off-season I'd rate us a premiership chance next year!

Already looks like he's struggling to get through games without his back giving him issues. Also just missed a set shot from 15 metres out on 45 degree angle. Wouldn't bother chasing him unless he cost us very little. Would rather we chase key position forward/second ruck or a key defender. Steven May or Jake Lever would be ideal.

Elliott is a good talent, but he just can't get on the park (or stay there). He's played well this game, but game's in the balance and he is on the bench getting worked on as his back/hip is giving him trouble again. If he can't string more than 4-5 games together every few years he's not much use. Petrevski-Seton looks the goods for the Blues. I know he was a high draft pick (pick6-7?) but looks like they nailed that pick. Good blend of inside/outside midfielder. Links up well and hits the scoreboard.

It will be tough for Adelaide to come back being a man down for the half now (Tom Lynch looks to be done for the day). They've clearly been the better team since quarter time (kicked 7 goals to 2), but letting any team kick 10 goals before you even score will never end well. They may be without Tom Lynch (injured) and Charlie Cameron (suspension) next week though which helps us when we play them over in Adelaide.

Bit of both. Roos are playing their absolute best. Crows are playing their absolute worst. Their midfield barely touched the ball in the first quarter, even with all the centre bounces. They have evened it up this second quarter and could easily come back and dominate the second half if they can click back into gear with the ball.

We have the talent now, we don't need a big fish. We do however need leadership. Whether that's bringing in another Jordan Lewis type or drafting more kids with leadership skills, it's something we still lack when games are in the balance. Hogan will likely command a big wage in the future (he probably does already), but if we keep building like we are he will stay and we will have enough to keep our core together.

I'm just frustrated as the season is 1/3 over and we've blown a few chances. We haven't had to leave Melbourne yet and now have to start traveling so the easy part of our draw is over and we didn't capitalise enough IMO. We can definitely still make finals, but we should probably be better off than where we are and we are also going to have to rely on other teams around us (mainly Saints) losing too. We need to win 4 of our next 5. Should beat Hawks, North, Gold Coast and Collingwood. We cannot drop any of those games are we don't deserve to make finals. I hope we don't drop any of those as I'm f*cking sick of not seeing finals action and success. Us supporters have had it worse than any other club this past 10 years.

A shame GWS weren't able to hold on with the two men down. This is a blow for our finals campaign, as we're fighting with Saints for 8th spot and need all the luck we can get. We're going to need to win the ones we should from here on in and pluck a few surprise wins like GWS have tonight if we're going to make it. Hopefully we belt the Hawks tomorrow and build percentage!

Shiiiiit cmon GWS! Don't let it slip now!

Cmon GWS! Get the job done! I want the Dees to make the 8!

$cully is tearing it up this quarter. Taranto looks good for a first year player, not winning a heap of ball but is using it well and getting to the right spots. Keep it up GWS! Help our percentage!

Reckon GWS can still get up. They're playing poorly and still winning, so hopefully they can kick into gear and thrash the Saints the second half. If their midfield and half backs can be a bit cleaner going forward then they should win. As long as they can keep getting it down to Cameron they'll be fine. He can turn it on and make goals out of nothing that guy, absolute gun forward he is!

Our % is currently only 2 higher than Saints. We need GWS to belt them to help us with our quest for finals.

Agree he has been slopping, turned a few over. He's just more explosive and damaging IMO. Kelly has had 16 touches and only gained 41 metres. For someone who is purely an outside runner, that is not very productive.

Still working for me. It has been shocking this year though. All 2017 video and live streaming dropped out for 3-4 hours last weekend fore everyone.

Josh kelly has been average. Not worth anywhere near the million a year for 9 years touted in the media. Dylan Shiel is a far more damaging player.

We need GWS to belt them to help us stay in the hunt for finals. Saints giving it a real crack though.

Anyone with the game have any idea about being able to alter player stats?

It's a tricky one, as Oliver and Heaney have less exposed form to go off. 1. Bont - Hard to argue he's not the best young player in the league. He's the most proven, stood up in finals and is still very young. Match winner with versatility and x factor. Hard to believe he's only 21 with 67 games to his name and is already one of the best in the league! 2. Oliver - Best inside mid going around and still has a lot of development still left in him. Could become the best of the lot if he can learn to rest forward and hit the scoreboard. He has good kicking skills and decent pace, so if he can make use of those more the sky is the limit for him. 3 - Heeney - He's already kicked bags of goals as a forward, and shown he can be damaging as a midfielder. We bid pick 2 to take him, so rated him highly. Could become the best of the lot. 4 Cripps - Gun inside mid but fairly one dimensional. Doesn't have the pace or kicking skills of Oliver so don't believe his ceiling is as high. He's got more exposed form than Oliver and Heaney, but think he won't improve much further and they pass him.

Are you able to edit the players stats? I read they did the stats based off the 2015 season for some reason, so rookies and youngsters are all rated poorly. Not keen on having Clayton Oliver as one of the lowest rated players in the league lol

The betting apps offer a 'cash out' option most of the time these days. So if you place a bet at say $10 odds, then the odds come in for whatever reason, e.g. 4 of your 5 teams win in your multi, or in our case Oliver continuing his good form so his odds drop, you have the option to cash out at the rate offered instead of waiting for the bet to end. Oliver has already come from $67 to $51 since that article was published. If he keeps this form going and comes in to say $15 I will be able to cash out and make a profit without waiting for the Brownlow to happen. I did the same thing with Gawn last year and made a few bucks. Oliver's in tremendous form, but I don't think he'll win the Brownlow. Maybe in a few years when umpires recognise him more and stop pinging him for throws. Tremendous young talent and so happy to see him stepping up at such a young age. Hopefully his teammates in Petracca, Brayshaw, Hunt, Hogan etc can all find similar consistency and impact as they are also very talented footballers.