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Freo need an injection of talent... honestly, Hird should never be allowed any form of accreditation ever again, until he takes responsibility for what he did.

With $300 mio in class action lawsuits on the way , he is personally liable as a director. May face hefty fines and disqulification, or even jail.

Perhaps it was a closed fist. Christian sis say he was going to come down hard on any punching, including to the body. Open hand, next time. Weak as pizz, honestly. Glad they posted it, coz I missed it entirely!

Oliver accepted a $1500 penalty for something that happened with Jacobs. I didn't see it - anyone know? ps - should have been given a bonus of $1500....

Really pleased he did well. Playing well against that rabble perhaps is not an indicator for selection. I’m sure the coaching team have a number of things they want to see, and need to see in context of better opposition for him to make it. Hannan may still be in front of him re pressure and tackling, but he looks like a great addition to the squad.

NFI. Must be living in 2015.

That looks photoshopped. A boys head on a mans body?

Would I pay more money to stabilise the club? I think this is the wrong question. I think the question should be "If the Demons presented a cogent future vision of the club, would I pay to buy in?". I watched Richmond sell a shed load of absolute crap merchandise. I saw their fans dancing on wheelie bins in Swan St. We have no natural home for us to celebrate our flag, for our fans to race in and buy the merchandise. Dogs, Carlton, Collingwood, Richmond, Essendon and Geelong all do, even hawks have Waverly. Where do we have?? Don't tell me Casey Fields, or I will spew. If we had a home and a presence, we could build out a brand that resonated in the community. This would create a footprint on which to build something special. Add to that on field success (or, at worst, a reduction in the onfield vomit of most of the last decade) and the club would stabilise itself. A proper base, a proper sense of self, and success would all deliver success (and maybe even a Friday night game).

MRP is a confusing mess. Gill remains a dill. demons 5th. rule of the week ruins otherwise reasonable games. Jesse Hogan absolute breakout year. Lever proves he is worth every cent. AA.

We are. A small part of his salary. anything else, I don’t give a stuff about. He is no longer a Melbourne player, he is a past player.

Photos beg to differ. Seemed to be running well, and not yet even due back! pic by Demonpk

Great for Jack, can’t see the sense for Port. Is he back up for Rocky? Do they want him for leadership? we know he is a great bloke and a smart footballer, but he was off the pace of AFL in the games he played this year for Melb. I think he will dominate the SANFL, but will be found out if selected for Port. Ports strategy is difficult to understand, with their outs and ins. Have brought in 4 players with specific question marks- they must believe that Kochie’s Kool Aid fixes all. 2018 will be an interesting year for this team.

Really? How do you judge that his negotiating skills are horrible when you have NO IDEA what his desired outcome, or minimal negotiating position, actually is? It is not life and death, FMD! He is not a hostage negotiator. I would prefer that the Dees are known as decent to deal with - the first step in building trust to establishing a frame for negotiation. you slag him off and have not one f’ing clue.

In 12 months, we won’t be arguing over which picks, but whether he is one of the top players in the AFL. Very nice get, thank you very much.

I’m hoping Balic is a 4th rounder, or whatever we have leftover from other deals. Think this will go down at the end of the period, rather than early. I don’t think there will be other deals contingent on this.

Confucius say “Lever in hand, better than 2 fulcrum in bush” smart fella, that Confucius. Lever ready to go now, draft pick 2018 may be good 2020. behavioural economics here is clear. We have taken the lower risk payout early rather than higher risk payout later. With optimism bias, we may believe we could grab 2 superstars with those picks. Reality suggests our strike rate is lower than that. we also have a good recent record of lower picks delivering the goods. The deal is about lower risk, faster reward with a dose or reality thrown in. On this basis - and where we are at, it’s a good deal. We will know in the next couple of years if it is a great one.

The destination of the Cows post season trip. I understand they wanted somewhere ‘warm’..... They were all excited...

He is getting a finger and an ankle. The finger because it has been stuck up his ahrse. Ankle because he has had his foot in his mouth. Back in time to sook about Sloane in the pre-season.

Really finished the year off poorly. Could have imposed himself but failed to do so. Doubt he has any currency. Thanks, ans see ya. Seems the drinking session was a bit of a line in the sand for the club.

They still want two first rounders, but will speak ‘only to us’ for now (how nice of them...). These pricks have no idea. I was hoping this would be done quick so we could get on with other things, but it looks like this one may drag over the two weeks.

And HE wanted out!

4th rounder and get it done - boom!

The media are paid to speculate - and to create controversy and click bait. At the end of the day, our FD isn’t sitting there saying “wow! We got that so wrong! Because Weaful Wee said he is worth a first rounder, we need to change our thinking”. Ignore the idiots, ignore the chaff.

I have been thinking on ‘what is he worth’ (and it extends to Watts, and everyone else). A draft pick takes effort and resources to develop into a player. The pick has ‘potential’ but no evidence of performance capability. So when we think of Lever, he was a first round pick that has had investment in his development, and we believe that he has long term potential and demonstrated performance capability. We can get in draft picks and pay them a lower salary. Or else we can bring in players and pay for their development elsewhere (and hopefully decrease the risk that we take in getting them ready to go). In terms of salary, bringing in a low risk, low cost to develop option is definitely worth more than a developing young player who has yet to deliver on their potential. Players that pass through development and show that they can play move into the category of lower risk assets, and are worth additional salary. (This is where it looks like Adelaide screwed up). From a ‘trade value’ scenario, it really depends where you are relative to your list development. If there is a scarcity for specific talent that we need to complete a part of our list, then paying ‘overs’ is acceptable. If the list is shoddy or full of holes, then going for young potential through the draft is higher risk - but if you are not a serious contender is a lower cost strategy that makes sense. This is where we have been for the last decade. If you know there are higher quality talent (risk, but lower risk) in the draft, and you dont have immediate need, then trading for the right picks seems wise. List management also requires a continuous back fill of talent so that you have ‘depth’. So return to the issue at hand: What should we pay Lever and pay for Lever? Probably overs in terms of contract, and overs in terms of pure replacement pick (so a first and a second). What should we get for Watts? Probably unders - we wont get a first pick, and probably a second round pick would be appropriate. That is, unless we can find a suitor that has a specific need that they are trying to fill. He is worth more to us (if he puts the shoulder to the wheel) than his market value because of his 9 years of demonstrated ‘performance’ and unfulfilled ‘potential’. Dealing between clubs is not about ‘winning and losing’ (outcome bias), but about serving our needs. If the club determines that getting Lever for two first round picks is value to us, then so be it. It is not about the deal for Danger, Mitchell, or whomever. This just biases the conversation (and why Burton from Adelaide is a clown). Get the best you can, relative to current need, and get on with chasing the flag. Between filling a few holes in the list, and seeing some significant development in talent on the way up, I think we are well placed. We dont need too much from the draft, so the picks are better used traded out to get what we need in terms of already developed and performing talent.

Dwayne Russell is a [censored]. Who cares what he thinks. He has to keep talking or he would dribble. He has no place in setting the value. Walk to the draft if you must, JL, and screw the crows.