beelzebub

ya still got it OD

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This wasnt about them ceasing to be easy beats. This wasnt even about beating them narrowly nor was it about their winning in a close contest. THEY SMACKED OUR BUMS !!!

Brigade huh...told you the memory was fuzzy. Used to do a great countery... But god knows how long ago that was

I have vague memories of the Rifleman , but then I have vague memories of lots of pubs !!!

If hes not fit , he ought to have stayed in the magoos and waited til a good preseason under belt. Someone else playing his possie wouldnt have changed any game outcomes. For someone touted as having ready to go AFL skills hes a bit underwhelming. I dont think the many are writing him off at all. Hes ours, wish him good luck and hope he can deliver on his potential. am sure he'll be a better than half decent player...one day..sometime. All some of us have suggested was he wasnt the right choice. Hes not a wet behind the ears kid whos simply played schoolboy stuff ( ) hes already had time in senior footy.and as such was expected to be a little more with it than exhibited to date.

we have a bridge ??

He probably doesnt like Bananas either Red !!

perfect understanding

how old is viney...wines..a dozen other kids ? its irrelevent.

Has another year to run on his std draftee contract I believe. Cant wait for all the posts about hes so under-supported out there and thats why !!

again DUMB

never an excuse for this really...its just plain DUMB

Ive heard Krudd is just plain Bananas !!

For me its like Sanctuary

all the best dc.

glad to hear your ok mate

ahh...Blease Strauss.. yepp.. lemons. Trenners gone from ^^^^^^^ to vvvvvvv another thing entirely

I think many are misconstruing what some of us are saying.. We arent knocking the idea of Toumpas per se. I / we agree he will ( most likely) develop into a better than average player. The question is/was .....was he the right choice at the time given we are who we are and where we are. ? Some of us simply take the position he wasnt. Thats not to say hes not a decent pick, just not the one we needed then/now.

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Really.. I may have given more body to my stance but its the same one. Wines and Toupmas are like any kids with ability hopefully long term ( 150-200 ) game prospects. Im not sure where I havent thought this. Also Ive said that imho Wines is Inside meat and veg, Toumpas outside icing on cake. Toumpas is 2-3 years away from being anything of real note. Wines is doing real and meaningful things RIGHT NOW . If I had the pick..I would have chosen Wines over Toumpas...doesnt even bear 5 secs thinking really// What do we lack ?? Go at it inside mids. Please explain your thinking Ive changed my tune

Thats to suggest that he would have only made some difference this year. Im fully aware of the nature of drafting. My contention is that both are long term prospects. They are slightly different.. One more inside , the other more outside.. Good insiders I would suggest are harder to come by. Evidence our situation currently where we will be desperately seeking some good inside stock this drafting/trading coming. Funny had we taken Wines we would already have one in the system.

Im certainly not suggesting shooting up the ladder would be an outcome. Maybe a more competitive and forward orientated midfield might

Its about as good an argument though as hypothesising that someone might be better than another through sheer guesstimating Id suggest !! What If Toumpas is good, but Wines still better ?? Thats just as possible and would sink all the arguments based upon Dimitri skipping past.. What we do KNOW is in front of us. What I know is Id rather Wines assisting in a meaningful manner in the middle, right now. Wines ( like his mate Viney ) are notorious for tacking all comers on. Little Jimmy isnt at that point. I havent seen anyone write that Toumpas isnt a quality player . But most of his value lays in his potential. That ought to be the clubs motto. Whats latin for " We draft potential and kill it "