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I wonder what he might say now ?
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Its his 8th year .. And hes playing pretty good footy at present... but an 8yr solid player ... A bit contrived.
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He has said and maintained he understands Scully's view and respects it... support. ??? who knows. Might be a stretch that. Trengove is playing a very straight bat here. As is his only real option. Very unfair how hes been made to cop so much that really Scully should front for...imho
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playing and leading are often two different things
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but its pretty fair to say Introversion isnt !!
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Therees a pattern.. Bruce did this..Green did this.. Davey did this.. all suffered post contract hangovers !!
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I think this is very valid. So much about Tom is all 'future based". His value by many is accorded by way of his potential and where he "might' be in 2-3 seasons. This is where the equation becomes very expensive. Theres no dounbt this kid has a brilliant footy mind. He will become very good. How good though ? Well depends on who's pump you use as to how inflated the forecast becomes. This for many is the thing that sticks in the craw...is how much to pay whilst he becomes whatever he becomes, and wil that be indeed what the hype insists ? If GWS wasnt looming...what would this lads value, expectation and such be ?? So much about all this is skewed because of the GWS factor.
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im guessing it was drolly tongue in cheek.!!
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lol..ive sent some pretty strange messages over the years on the phone thanks to bloody predicitve text..l
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You would have to think that the looming advent of Free Agency and its particualr indluence on players of such service as Colin that the club is probably looking to 2 year contracts as a norm. Everyone I suppose is deserving of a fair shake of the tree and possibly Colin , more than another certain player , could legitimately throw attention to the upcoming CBA. I can only think the club is smartening up and conrtucting payments a lot more around performance than in the past.
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youre right..its a balancing act.. balancing money and egos ( often inlfated )
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I definitely feel ( hope ) that Melbourne's "Brass" are slowly learning to be a littel more steeley in its resolve come Contracts. Theres no doubt weve been burnt in the past and some current players are really getting above award wages considering their effforts.. I think the MFC is slowly coming to the idea that "two can place this game" and still manage to keep a balanced healthy ( and growable ) list. If players want to take the line that clubs are expendable, then so to are they. Col's worth keeping, for sure, but if he goes, then he goes..and someone else comes. And tomorrow the sun will stil rise and on and on
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To be honest.. Col's a bit of an enigma. Hes hot hes cold. During many of the games this year when we needed some senior presence Sylvia was amongst the missing. He put s in some great games, but far too few. He puts in far more Good qtrs than he does entire games.. Hes replacable. He might be just fishing for another good contract at the Dees..or be genuine in starting afresh. Wouldnt worry me if he went....Just make sure we get someting decent in return, thats all.
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This ^^^^ Ive been as critical as any of Jonesy over the time but he seems to be polishing his act quite a bit. Still accounts for some teeth gnashing clangers but his vision has improved and doesnt panic with ball nearly as much. Not quite there yet...but on the way...Good effort
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Actually for mine he strikes me as one of those.. "Always had the talent and showed potential but never did quite put it all together over his journeyman career" time for him to continue that journey
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WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - JACK VINEY
beelzebub replied to einstein251's topic in Melbourne Demons
what you say is dead right.. hed be bouncig off a few players just at the moment...but given his tender years he ought to be nearer Beamer by the time he hits the deck for Melbourne ( maybe just a few kilos lighter...but not much. He ought to put on 7-8 kg over next 18 months youd think. Absolutely right about the in built GnD. Hes going to all but kill someone.... he and Tappy ought to scare a few over the years....Its great isnt it -
WELCOME TO THE MELBOURNE FOOTBALL CLUB - JACK VINEY
beelzebub replied to einstein251's topic in Melbourne Demons
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hmmm...ok......
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lol.... ah yes.. i love it when the plausible deniabilitiy horse is dragged out. Keep in mind shall we..Its ALL Scully .. Hes the one who is playing..hes the one who is paying.. Its up to him what acceptable in teh end and whats not. please.... get real
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Green...was waiting til teh best offer from Melbourne came.. not the first one.. Sorry not same at all. Melbournes offfer for Scully is as is..what ever it is. . If he wants to continue at Melbourne he could obviosuly sign now. rift,...blah blah quote: "THE Scully camp is at odds with the Demons over the clauses in the club's latest contract offer." hardly ambiguous
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you see this is where it gets interestiing.. Green Held out to better his offer..yes...no doubt..Then he signed. Tom is holding out for ???? The offers are on the table.. So whats he holding out for exactly ? Anyone else pickup on the faux pas.. Its been said all along that Master Scully wasnt worried to know of the details of offers to date just yet as it would all be considered at seasons end. yet apparently hes not happy with some clauses.!!!! Hey..im not making it up
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Whats their path to securing him ??
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youre not alone in raising an eyebrow at all that. Wasnt thinking so much of a job for Dad ( but hey ) as much as Its not so foreign teritory up their for the family Scully. Not as much as many ( including myself ) would have originally thought. Its a curiosity isnt it
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and probably a few could fill it as well. Grimes to come back for starters.. Viney later on as well ( a littel wait I concede...lol ) My point is weve played a lot of games without Scully.. we can actually fill the void from within. Others coming through as well..etc. Omeara is interesting though
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Id take seconds on that actually.