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The definition of loyalty: Barassi: Be loyal to who you are with.... at the time. Smith: I'm Melbourne, Tony... etc can't remember rest of quote Flower: 272 games, 315 goals Scully: (insert) supporters: renew membership, attend games., Just get it over with. The surprise about this year-long soap opera is that the South Australian, Jack Trengove has been more than happy to state that he wants to stay a Dee. Losing Scott Thompson, and missing out on Jarman in the 1990's one would have thought that it would have been Trengove who was the more likely of our top two draft picks who was lured away. There should be a cut-off point where Scully is asked to make his intentions known. Bailey has been more forthright with other lesser lights who changed clubs.

That is a ripper post, Rusty. It all comes down to two words: plausible deniability. Scully's manager tells his player to chant a certain mantra throughout the season to round 24 (which makes it plausible to the hamstrung coach, football department, admin. etc that he is a rusted-on rednblueboy4 life. the hamstrung club then transcribes this noble lie to the masses that scully is a rednblueboy4 life etc. we supporters (inc. this trident subscribed correspondent) then go along and cheer the saviour 'number 31' Go number 31!!! till the end of the season, believing even more in the benificence of the AFL and its providence. come brownlow night, the finals and "ooh gee, aren't we lucky, we got another ten games into player scully the GWS franchise gently lowers the brown suitcase full of cash at no.31's doorstep and we have the rug well and truly pulled out from under us. ps i totally agree that the melodrama over scully affected our result on monday, and is influencing our topsy-turvy results in general.

http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/scully-move-would-not-bother-demetriou-20110615-1g3ij.html

Before the game highlights of the Neitz-era Demons pinning Collingwood into their backline was quite a bizarre start to the day. The 2004 team sure knew how to play.

10minute 35 sec. mark (third q?) Watts habitually looks to give off a short pass from the 50 mark, i just new it would go awry, and it did. Why don't you go back and do one of those big bombs you always did at Casey? Lots of good work apart from this and a few other bloopers.

Brad may be shell-shocked, he has taken some huge hits over the years. Remember him taking a cruel pass from Jones? which resulted in bad facial injuries last year.

A persuasive case for scully going/ stay can be made either way. scully going imo is the new normal, we are catching with best practise in the U.K and other footballing nations with players rushing to the cash and the champagne. it was routinely reported on the wireless a few nights back that two top players, one from sunderland and one from blackburn rovers were heading to liverpool and somewhere else united. now that major money is washing into the system the mighty dees just have tostruggle through. i for one am over this. player scully knows that his delayed or concealed decision must impact on the fabric of the club and i have no doubt is part of our general week to week instability. as the countdown clock gets closer to the colwd geel play-off we should raise the ante and request he announce what he is doing.

Every time Tom Scully ran to the interchange bench i thought he was catching a jolimont station to tullamarine connection. on a serious note his disposal is surprisingly poor... release of the football is delayed a la bruce absolutely no precision in his contact. how this guy could be getting offered a gadzillion dollars of monopoly money from greater western union football club i wouldn't have a clue.

Schwarta's comments are those of the gambler who matter-of-factly assumes he knows what his opponent's hand is, even though he really has no idea. The next stage is to implant this belief in the rest of us sitting around the table.

Just listened to Schwartz's comments re: Scully being 98% "gone" balanced by Mark Robinson's opinion that Melbourne confident he will stay. Anyway, the thing has Sheedy payback written all over it for being rejected for the Melbourne coaching job. Otherwise why poach a player who is still a 'potential' champion?

Makes you wonder what depleted is with Davey,Jamar, Tapscott, Grimes and Garland out of our starting 18.

BOG effort by Trengove on before the game. i don't mind the show but rarely watch it. love samantha lane. confident stance by trengove when asked the inevitable scully question.

could be bigger than the dot com bubble. brisbane bears in the paper this morning with multi-million debt following port adelaide's multi-million dollar debt, following the quick-layout of green lawn strips at gold coast. it suits the afl to think that half the public are indoctrinated with this bigger-is-better corporatisation of our game.

Was going to start a Barassi-to-Carlton thread but thought I'd go with this one instead: Dees' Morton puts contract talks on hold. Hey ... imagine a GWS v Golden Suns Grand Final. Guess the crowd.

The AFL want to takeover NSW and rugby, and Tom Scully is the key pin-up boy for this expansion. To do this they have to double-cross a foundation club which signed on to the AFL's expansion plans based on a level playing field of salary caps and national drafts. The way this pans out will give a pointer to the fate of a number of victorian clubs. 18 clubs is too many clubs chasing too few premierships. the competition is usually over by the half-way mark of the season, then tanking or top four is all that matters. I am praying we can survive our courageous recovery and that our great list can be retained and achieve our dreams.

although i confess to needing a tom scully update every fifteen minutes, i think it is quite ridiculous to bid him up. all we are doing is playing into the hands of the big clubs. just sit tight, once blue mountains east f.c use up their handouts they will be sitting pretty like our lovely brisbane. never have i felt so closely to rugby as an entity.

Fate deals a strange hand. Until an unlucky bounce last September Collingwood had WON one premiership since 1958, (in 1990) and two since 1939. They had become perennial finalists before this but collapsed and were mocked roundly since the 60's as the 'colliwobbles'. Having said that, I admire what they have been able to do without bottoming out. another piece of trivia: collingwood have been defeated by melbourne in approx 15 of their last 16 finals outings.

As Oscar Wilde would have said, (apologies to Monty Python), "There is only one thing worse than correcting a spelling error and that is being corrected for correcting a spelling error". Here's my factoids, in any order: 1. The delay in reaching a decision will pump up Scully's contract value; 2. Scully has made an 'in-principle' commitment to the Dees with his earlier press conference. 3. This in-principle commitment can be over-ridden if Big Kev can get his mits on our Tom. 4. Tom's number one priority is to believe he can play in a premiership team. 5. MFC's premiership window has never been this good with our beautiful list. 6. Jimmy Stynes is the numero uno man manager and having him at the head of our organisation gives us the edge in retaining our player. 7. The media-frenzy is again building up and may hasten a decision. Last Saturday what s-his-name Maclure said on ABC774 that if our Tom hadn't signed in four weeks he would be gone.

It is totally in the interests of the GWS backers to quietly fan speculation that there is a 'done deal' because it feeds the mindgames in their overall recruiting push. another article in the age this morning saying how the push into gws will cost the league 200 million and that it will not succeed. tom would be looking at another five years of struggletown in a struggletown to get success, whereas melbourne are showing real signs that we are capable of raising the phoenix. i remember months of speculation in the 90's over stephen tingay going to fremantle, ultimately he stayed. after watching tom's positive comments post-match on friday I am more swaying to him staying. in the end i think intangibles will come into play. melbourne's list is looking extremely good and things are starting to fall into place. plus Jimmy!

rIf we had kept gerard healey that would have helped in '87, definitely would have got us a flag imo.

that 'pet' name is totally disgusting and should not be allowed on this site. if the administrators condone it then it reflects very poorly on this supporter website.

i was there during the 60's and it was at least half of them: '65, '66, '67, '68, and '69. I have been depressed about the demons since round 1, 1966 when we were clobbered by the saints in the match of the day. the game was built up as melbourne on the rise again after a disappointing '65. well i have been through a lot of wasted football matches since then.

Well it has destroyed the south australian and western australian football competitions for a start. look up a utube of the fantastic atmosphere and crowds which attended finals matches in these states. i think it was about 1974 when sturt or port adelaide beat carlton in the 'championship of australia' with barry robran starring. what a match. melbourne similarly won three 'championships' in the 50's and 1964 by overcoming the top south australian team. what exactly is 'west coast eagles'? secondly it has created fake football teams like gfc and gwfc. diluting the brand. it is called national but denies a true football state like tasmania admission. look how well tassie does in the sheffield shield or whatever it is now called. in the days before mass weekly injuries of footballers we had 18 home and away games and potentially two finals games. now we have a pre-season round of matches leading to a pre-season premiership followed by 22 games then maybe three or four finals for premiership aspirants. no wonder the clubs want to protect their players. Ps this was the game i was referring to... check out the genuine interstate, and national rivalry. not the confected competition that we have ended up with in 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZqJBwvbWS8&feature=related

Reading each week about jumper clashes, it makes me wonder why the necessity to junk tradition and watch a home club team run around against 'unknowns'? Often there is no jumper clash at all, it is some cheap AFL initiative to water down club loyalty for the sake of television ratings or whatever reason. the next time i watch the 'afl-approved demons' play away i lose a bit. when i see them in some photoshopped jumper... it's just not the same. Anyway, rate your ten worst afl initiatives from 10 to 1. This can be over the last 25 years. By the way, my all-time worst is the shift from VFL Park to Etihad Car Park. My second worst is the botched finals system which allowed adelaide to trump us in 1998 and progress to a premiership - despite being flogged by the dees during the finals series. Oops, i forgot dumping state of origin football, and creating the AFL in the first place, so: 10. the clash jumpers. problem is the clash jumper usually clashes with itself. 9.No reserves or u19 game before the main game. 8.agree with another poster: disgraceful ticketing arrangements for the grand final. 7. Fixturing, which gives the pole position profit-wise to a select few clubs. 6. Allowing two teams to have the 'match of the year' gifted to them in perpetuity, regardless of their position on the ladder ('Anzac Day' clash) 5. The loss of Saturday afternoon football 4. Junking state of origin football 3. The finals series which requires an undefeated team to win three consecutive matches to win the premiership 2.Creating the AFL in the first place. 1. Creation of Etihad Car Park, demolition of VFL Park, Waverley. Apologies to omitting from my top ten the afl-designated 'legend' status. supporters and lovers of australian rules are the ultimate arbiters of legends, and aren't interested in another such afl tick of approval: john coleman was a legend long before the afl and long before it created this monty pythonesque concept. ron barassi was a rusted-on legend without some wacky belated announcement.