daisycutter

why wait 18 months?

thanks. i try.

yep

bs. they thought worst-case would be a handful of games which would be tolerable, because they drank the koolaid being passed around by the usual suspects

seems all those posters who said that the afl must have given sureties, support, guarantees or other forms of insurance, compensation to clubs who might trade for essendon players, got it completely wrong. it was all caveat emptor and we jumped in

total no-no

they should get it of course, regardless of whether they may claim to be "embarrassed" or "don't want it" fact is they deserved it. watson was found guilty of using peds that year regardless of whether he intended to or not he still got the unfair advantage should be a lay-down misere. i can't understand the delay

tracey holmes discussing this with tony jones this morning on 3aw came across as a hird sympathiser even jones, an essendon supporter said he felt this. he was also disappointed that the show will cover a lot of other aspects and not just focus on hird's "story" which he thought would be a pity as he thought it should just concentrate on interviewing hird as this was an opportunity to delve deeper and not just regurgitate generalisations. he said he probably wouldn't bother watching

even so-called individual sports operate in a team environment. e.g. the olympic swimming team use the team doctor, team coaches, etc also many top-level individual sports competitors operate in academy environments where the are expected to use common coaches, doctors, nutritionists etc

i believe he is well endowed, bitters.......................................with money

at least one essendon supporter gets it kennyaussie 1h ago 12 A most interesting day in sport, we all should be cheering drug users got caught but a % feels they have been maligned badly, the % need to learn how to read, or read the details or look beyond red and black. Seems a good and fair verdict to me. Cop it on the chin whiners don't do well in Aus. Jockeys when the outed by the Stewards don't receive payment, seems odd and paly that these guys are going to be paid. Since 1943 by having relations in Essendon and a frequent visitor to the nearby Aerodrome I have been a Essendon supporter(Three I was and one of the few things remembered) and still wonder WHY.WHY But Essendon will return one day that's the way of things so lets get on with it so I have a chance to see it please. Ah yes Jobe give it back and be well remembered. Hangerons should just shutup for a month or two...Support the firefighters till winter...

and cancer

don't misrepresent me nasher. i always thought he was guilty and i always thought there was a good chance (not guaranteed) that cas would find so. Given that i also thought the price paid (pick number plus salary quoted) and the risk of suspension hanging over him (plus my doubts on his playing ability) made the decision too risky, given our change in list management and our need to make each post a winner in trade/draft period. As it has turned out i think today's decision by cas has only reinforced my initial thoughts during trade/draft period it's just my opinion and i don't take any gratification over the way it has turned out. as to what may happen in the future i'm not that interested at the moment in speculative guesswork and self rationalisation

not really. he can comfortably lose every game next year without blame. he won't get much joy though

i don't know how you can make that statement when you don't even know what was taken down at the cattery

seems the bombers will be paying their players during the suspension so what is the case with milkshake? i presume he too will now be payed, but by who? if by us then that is $400k straight down the drain. or if you want to average it out he will effectively cost $533k pa for 3 years. he'd better be better than good

no if you can be bothered trawling through the trade period threads you will see i was one of the first posters to suggest this trade was too risky. ask yourself this. if you could make the choice now in retrospect would you still make the trade? if your answer is no, then the trade was a mistake. whether we can now salvage something out of this is an entirely different proposition (and is also something very subjective)

nasher, it's is very easy to rationalise almost anything (go on bomberblitz) and easy to find a siver-lining in every dark cloud. we now have to live with the mistake and i hope we can salvage some good out of it but none of that should distract from the fact that the decision to trade for milkshake with a low 2nd rounder and a good salary, was, in the conditions of a pending wada appeal, a bad decision. a snafu

that would be quite an expensive exercise, nasher - 3 x $400k potentially, down the drain

sorry nasher, didn't pass the sniff test. never did. throwback to the bad old days of list management

"the power of 1" title has already been taken too, so james will need another for his autobiography

and coming from someone renowned for his rigid black and white moral preaching

will chip be writing a new book?

didn't lance come on here and say if they were found guilty he would (grudgingly) accept it and move on?

we are able to upgrade 2 rookies now the rookie rules for 2016 allowed all clubs to nominate 1 rookie upgrade at the start of the season