pitmaster

Keep reminding yourselves that we were good enough to beat this mob even playing one man short for all but five minutes, until we kicked ourselves out of it. We are still right in the window.

Exactly. That's why the Brownlow is over-rated, on account of the fools that decide it.

This is a question to be put to the board at the next AGM.

Why would you let meanness get in the way? I'm in the same boat and while it's not a great ticket, and I am only half-hearted about it, I am going to go so that's one less Collingwood voice there.

Even in our premiership year (his first with us) BBB only played 13 games. That he managed 19 games in 2022 looks like a miracle in hindsight. He came to us with the words of North supporters ringing in my ears "his knees are gone", so I really don't think we can expect much more from him. Just 7 games this year. He has been coaching the girls. His leading was sensational in his younger days. We can use a forward coach - maybe spread his pay through the men's and women's squads soft caps. As others have said, considering the pay-off from his recruitment it's been an outstanding success.

That was Callum Brown. He was otherwise terrific and a few minutes later kicked a ripper goal, but that was a costly mistake that undid some of his good work.

Don't know about that. Last night's game was seriously high quality. I felt at half time, given the Giant's aerial dominance that they would have the edge on us. They were very impressive. Collingwood's chaotic style undid them in the third quarter. Giants could not slow the game down and reassert control which is all a bit sad really. Very much hoping the Lions get it done for Chris Fagan.

Massive blue. He only had to run straight at the goal and kick through the ball. Tried a too clever by half screw kick.

Not worried by this. His comments are glib, superficial and easy. When any club is knocked out in consecutive finals they are fair game for "tough talk". There's no nuance, no grey area allowed. We here can note playing a man short, losing incredibly narrowly both times with a team that was already diminished by injury, rotten umpiring...dozens of small things that would have had us win, not lose against Carlton. That's all we need to know. Campbell Brown is bit of a donkey. Care factor: zero.

Nah...I want them destroyed in the manner of Sydney in last year's GF plus some. Give them a belting that will damage them psychologically for seasons to come.

I just want to say I told you so. Not you, exactly but everybody. When the hacks in the media started on last year how Collingwood was everyone's second team because everybody "loves the way they play" I said that horse s%&t would not survive an afternoon's exposure to their supporters. As for hating GWS and Sheedy, yep that was me too, but since the Stolen One's career amounted to nothing much at all I don't give a rat's anymore. I mean really, Tom Whathisface has no presence, is not much remembered except on demonland and had not much impact on the game. If he had stayed with us he would have something, some history, be a one club player with the distinction of helping us through hard times. In other words, he would have a home, but he is just another forgotten figure now. A nobody.

Wasted season? Let's be realistic and acknowledge that many clubs spend consecutive years at or near the top and in fact need to do so to win the title. That's what we are doing. Face it: we went into this finals series up against it missing key forwards and in both games (from the five minute mark of the Woods game) our in form midfielder. We lost both by a combined eight points. So we are a contender. I don't think it was wasted since (a) we put a year into JvR, (b) we learned last night that Smith, who played his best game, has a future as a marking target, (c) we saw Sparrow go to another level and Spargo was strong (again after appearing lost), and (d) we found McVee who was found out a little in the finals but will only improve. TMac will (should) retire. We played two men short (TMac Brayshaw) in the Woods game and one man short last night with TMac in the side. But we can build a forward line out of Petty, JvR, Smith and a fit Fritter who I reckon was seriously underdone for the finals. The backs were mighty these last few weeks and show no sign of slowing up. We lost due to some panic, some lack of composure up forward, poor skills (Max it's time you could be relied on in front of goal FCS), missing personnel, rotten luck and, in the final quarter last night some of the worst umpiring ever seen. Was it an AFL conspiracy to get the favoured Blue boys up? Sure looked like it although I'll reserve final judgement until I can face the replay. But for all that we have continued to lay groundwork And on the bright side we have a strong draft hand, ridiculously so for a team that finished as high as we did. Emphasis: players who can kick with precision.

Agree. They are the Great Orange Hope to upset the Pies. Cannot see Port troubling the McGuires but Giants are a real prospect for something unexpected.

Interesting that someone was recording that prior to McGuire rising to his feet...someone physically close to McGuire, someone he could even have asked to record him. If I didn't know otherwise as something simply too crass, I'd reckon it was not a spontaneous reaction, but something he set up to ensure it was posted on social media. That would ease his relevance deprivation syndrome for 24 hours or so. But no, that would be something too classless even for Fat Ed, wouldn't it?

Next bloke who is confronted with Maynard or any other Collingwood player doing this should aim the Sherrin for the family jewels. That'll put a stop to it.

Barrett's not really in the media. Not the independent media anyway. He's just a goose on afl.com.au. A boy's club [censored] and fanboy. Not a real journalist. A propagandist. A (wannabe) provocateur, unlike Kane Cornes who is an actual provocateur. Limp, like old lettuce, that's Barrett. PS: Those who have not seen Offsiders (abc iview) should check it out. Roy Masters nails this issue with one sentence ("could have done more...(but) turned his shoulder" into Brayshaw. Scroll to 15 minutes in.

Yep. There's been no comment about Brayshaw's welfare that I have seen, although I like others here have been less engaged since that atrocity. At least one neutral mate - a Bulldogs supporter - is of the view that the action by Maynard was deliberate and targeted. That does not seem to be even a remote consideration for the football commentariat who are agonising about "football actions" The problem with calling it a football action - they are referring to the attempted smother - is that it ceases to be a football action when Maynard turns his shoulder and drives it into Brayshaw. By that time the smother had failed. Another point: I was at the game, on the wing, and like others around me I did not see it live. Why? Because I was watching the ball. The point being this was an off-the-ball hit. Three weeks and damn the AFL if they let block headed sniper wriggle off.

I didn't see Angus at Open Training this morning although Melkie and Petty were both wheeled out. Literally, I mean, on a golf cart. Probably Angus is taking it very easy, but I am wondering if any demonlanders better connected than me have an idea of how he is. An update would be appreciated.

Toby Bedford (snags another) looks like the kinda goal sneak we could use.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse. His intention was to smother until the ball had passed at which point he turned his body and drove his shoulder at Number 10. End of story.

Noticed the same thing. It puzzled me at the time.

Ridley dithered and Northey sensed Melbourne was not committed to him. Meanwhile Richmond approached Northey as their coach had health issues and was seen as likely to quit..

He's taken a few steps forward this year having to reshape the forward line several times over and rejig the mids. He has grown in the job. This is good news.

McCartn free to play. If you play for Sydney... A disgrace.

Just not true. His first disposal was a score assist (handpass to Melksham in left forward pocket) that resulted in a minor score, literally our first point of the day. Second highlight also wrong as it implies he hit no target prior to the last quarter when, in fact, he passed cleverly under pressure to Melksham just before half time for a goal assist. Since you rarely pot our players why would you do so relying on BS?