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That's quite funny, I had to stop being cranky and laugh which was good

You'd imagine that with Jimmy at the helm we'll return to Ireland when our accounts are healthier. I'd say he'd have some pretty good contacts back home. Send him and Barassi over at the end of next season.

ok, fair enough, we'll agree to disagree.

Dan my boy, my debate was never with you it was with Mo, your points were off that topic. Talking about Valenti's problems as just a lack of pace and therefore talking about players such as Shaun Hart and Greg Williams is pointless. It's like comparing apples and cheese.

Geez, I'm cranky today!

Listen carefully. My point to Mo was that Valenti won't remain on out list because in my opinion he's not good enough and never will be. To prove that to Mo I pointed out that no premeirship side of the last 10 years has had a midfielder of Valent's questionable ability. He failed to answer, except with Sam Mitchell. which is plain wrong.

Hart was a fringe player who played 273 games including 3 premeirships. Next!! Oh, Greg Williams, another premeirship player who was arguably the best in and under in the comp whilst at his best. Your examples border, no they cross the border into complete stupidity By the way my argument was with Mo, but he's hitailed it outa here

No I asked Mo for players of Valenti's standard who had played in a premeirship side in the last 10 years. This list doesn't answer that question and nor did Mo

Mo, back on topic sunshine. The players referred too made up for a lack of pace with real strengths in other areas, something Valenti hasn't and won't do. The fact is Mo he managed 9 games in the worst midfield in the league which carried a host of injuries. Do you seriously think any top 8 side would play this guy. By the way I have nothing personal against Valenti and admire his spirit but he just ain't good enough and he won't last beyond next year. Period.

Valenti has more issues than just pace. You can add his height and his overall ability, neither of which is upto the top level standard of an AFL midfielder, except for in the worst club in the league with a host of injuries. Mo has diverted this to be just about his pace which the argument wasn't only about.

Exactly what Mo? Shane Valenti and Greg Williams. I don't think so

Are you putting Shane Valenti in the same bracket as these guys?? This topic's just got really silly

You come on here, accuse me of ignorance and then peddle this rubbish. Sam Mitchell, please!!

Not bad, but for mine Hart was a far superior player than Valenti

OK then, who's the premeirship midfielder who most resembles (in ability and style of play) Valenti?

Now there's a response from someone who knows his football!!!

And the slow, short, ordinary premeirship player is??

Either in emergency (many injuries) or because those who will replace him are still very young

He is turning over our complete list! It's got very little to do with luck and alot to do with good planning, great coaches and sound recruiting. For f**cks sake in the last 2 years he's basically recruited at least 10 players who have good skills and pace and play predominantly midfield and half back/forward, several of whom will become elite. So what was your argument again? Besides this you don't really know how Bailey's gameplan will pan out because he has neither all the components, nor are the ones he has, trained and experienced in what he is trying to do.

Name one premeirship side in the last 10 years with a very short, slow, very ordinary footballer playing in the midfield

Let's call it like it is, Valenti will be dropped from the rookie list at year's end. He will never play in a serious finals side.

I bought 2 and the first said 12 seats and the second said 13 so I wouldn't take too much notice.

Are they ever going to actually sign anything or are we just good friends with Casey as opposed to business partners?

Is this a joke? Were you at Melb v St Kilda elimination Final or Melb V Bris when he played with a broken foot? 2 of the finest examples of a footballer leading by example, not to mention the $10,000 he chipped in.

Does this mean he was at training?