Whispering_Jack

It’s a story from the Murdoch press and I think the information is not dissimilar to that in the story contained in Chaser J’s link above.

eth-dogs 2022 phantom draft (Big footy) First Round: Pick 1, Greater Western Sydney: Aaron Cadman (Greater Western Victoria Rebels, 194/88, Key Forward) Pick 2, Brisbane: Will Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons, 182/82, Inside Midfielder) Matching North Melbourne’s bid. Pick 3, North Melbourne: Harry Sheezel (SD, 184/77, Forward/Midfielder) Pick 4, North Melbourne: Elijah Tsatas (Oakleigh Chargers, 187/80, Balanced Midfielder) Pick 5, Essendon: George Wardlaw (OC, 182/82, IM) Pick 6, Gold Coast: Bailey Humphrey (Gippsland Power, 186/86 F/M) Pick 7, Hawthorn: Jhye Clark (Geelong Falcons, 181/77, IM) Pick 8, Geelong: Mattaes Phillipou (Woodville-West Torrens Eagles, 192/83, M/F) Pick 9, West Coast: Reuben Ginbey (East Perth, 188/81, Midfielder/Defender) Pick 10, St. Kilda: Cameron Mackenzie (SD, 187/80, IM) Pick 11, Carlton: Olli Hotton (SD, 181/79, F/M) Pick 12, Western Bulldogs: Jed Busslinger (EP, 196/82, Key Defender) Pick 13, West Coast: Elijah Hewett (Swan Districts, 185/84, IM) Pick 14, Melbourne: Harry Barnett (West Adelaide, 202/93, Ruck) Pick 15, Sydney: Jacob Konstanty (GP, 176/70, Small Forward) Pick 16, Essendon (live trade of pick 22 and Essendon F2 for pick 16): Oliver Hollands (Murray Bushrangers, 184/71, IM) Pick 17, Collingwood: Matthew Jefferson (OC, 194/76, KF) Pick 18, Sydney: Brayden George (MB, 185/87, Medium Forward) Pick 19, Greater Western Sydney: Charlie Clarke (SD, 182/75, SF) Second Round: Pick 20, Greater Western Sydney: Mitchell Szybkowski (Dandenong Stingrays, 186/84, IM) Pick 21, West Coast: Sam Gilbey (Claremont, 188/71, Medium Defender) Pick 22, Western Bulldogs: Josh Weddle (OC, 193/82, Medium Defender) Pick 23, Greater Western Sydney (live trade): Lachlan Cowan (Tasmania Devils, 188/81, MD) Pick 24, Brisbane: Jaspa Fletcher (Sherwood, 184/73 Outside Midfielder). Matching Adelaide’s bid. Pick 25, Adelaide: Isaac Keeler (North Adelaide, 197/83, KF/R) Pick 26, Essendon: Alwyn Davey jr (Oakleigh, 180/74, SF/M) Matching Hawthorn’s bid Pick 27, Hawthorn: Darcy Jones (SwD, 175/63, SF) Pick 28, Collingwood: Henry Hustwaite (DS, 194/84, KD) Pick 29, West Coast: Ed Allen (Claremont, 194/82, Utility) Pick 30, Collingwood: Lewis Hayes (Eastern Ranges, 197/81, KD) Pick 31, St. Kilda: Jakob Ryan (Glenelg, 189/77, MD) Pick 32, Carlton: Koby Burgiel (GP, 183/77, Half Back) Pick 33, Fremantle: Nick Sadler (Sturt, 179/72, OM) Pick 34, Greater Western Sydney: Noah Long (Bendigo Pioneers, 178/74, SF/M) Pick 35, St. Kilda: Max Gruzewski (OC, 192/84, Utility) Pick 36, Port Adelaide: Adam D'Aloia (WWT, 186/86, IM) Pick 37, Melbourne: James Van Es (GWV, 196/97, KD)

MELBOURNE 3.1.19 5.1.31 7.2.44 9.4.58 GOLD COAST SUNS 0.0.0 1.0.6 1.3.9 1.3.9 GOALS MELBOURNE Harris 3 Hore Zanker 2 Fitzsimon D Pearce GOLD COAST SUNS Dupuy

Harris again. Lead is 25.

Tayla Harris makes it a trifecta 19 - 0 late in the first quarter.

Second to Kate Hore in her 51st!

Whichever player the recruiters consider is the best available.

In: Caris, Wilson, Brown Out: L.Pearce (concussion), Sherriff (inj.), Goldrick (inj.)

I tried this exercise with the Pick 13 thread to help in understanding this discussion in context. This is a look at the last five drafts and the choices made at around this selection. 2017 36. Charlie Constable (Geelong) 37. Harry Petty (Melbourne) 38. Jack Petruccelle (West Coast) 39. Nathan Murphy (Collingwood) 2018 36. Tom Berry (Brisbane Lions) 37. Laitham Vandermeer (Western Bulldogs) 38. Irving Mosquito (Essendon) 39. Jarrod Cameron (West Coast) 2019 36. Elijah Taylor (Sydney) 37. Keidean Coleman (Brisbane Lions) 38. Nick Bryan (Essendon) 39. Chad Warner (Sydney) 2020 36. Charlie Lazzaro (North Melbourne) 37. Corey Durdin (Carlton) 38. James Rowe (Adelaide) 39. Josh Eyre (Essendon) 2021 36. Jake Soligo (Adelaide) 37. Rhett Bazzo (West Coast) 38. Miller Bergman (North Melbourne) 39. Blake Howes (Melbourne) Another Harry Petty or Chad Warner would be a handy addition to the list.

Not entirely helpful if you only hold pick 13 Twomey’s preview for the first four picks of the National Draft

This sort of recruitment rarely turns out anything more than neutral in impact to a club. The feeling is that most people consider that it’s doomed to failure and that Shache will be around for a couple of seasons and get delisted. At the heart of it, we have a player who seven years ago won the Larke Medal for b & f in the National Under 18 Championships and was considered good enough to be pick 2 at the draft at the end of the year i.e. close to the 2015 version of Aaron Cadman who has half of the football world salivating today. The question is whether the club will take the time to unpack why he’s now at his third club and whether he can be mentored to iron out the faults he had when drafted or subsequently picked up along the way to improve him as a footballer. Otherwise, he languishes at Casey and perhaps plays a dozen games of AFL in 2023/4 and then disappears off the scene.

If we did that, they wouldn’t come to coach at Casey which is 50k from the CBD.

The big question is whether they release the review’s findings (probably not) but there are many aspects to the way in which a club operates and the coach is always the easiest target. Their recruiting and player development leaves a lot to be desired and their fitness people would surely be under the microscope. At least they must have plenty of dollars because the payout to Ratten is likely to be substantial and they will also no doubt let some of his coaching team go as well. They were 8-3 at the midpoint of the season. Did it have to come to this?

This amusement parlour in the heart of the Gold Coast used to be called “Grundys” many years ago. I’m starting a petition to have it changed back to its original name.

Local paper up on the Gold Coast writes about the Weideman trade as a massive recruiting coup by the Bombers

Well done guys but one clarification is required on the subject of whether James Jordon was dropped at the end of the season. He was in fact, named as the “medical sub” for the Round 23 match v Brisbane and was not used. He played in the Casey VFL team against the Brisbane reserves on the following day and then injured his foot at training during the following week and missed out on playing in the finals.

One player who I’m told tested well at the Combine is Ollie Hollands who is likely to be taken somewhere in the range of our first pick at 13/14.

The Tigers delisted four players today - Jake Aarts, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Will Martyn and Sydney Stack. Expect a few more clubs to follow including Melbourne which, on my reckoning, needs to delist one more player.

Cadman is now an absolute certainty to be taken with GWS pick one but he was outside the top 10 in most of the early season power rankings while people were hot for key position prospects like Lemmey and Scully of SA and Jefferson of Vic Metro. He could be the best key position prospects but who knows how he would go if the Giants throw him into the heat of battle early?

Part Four - THE BEANSTALK The last few days and hours of the AFL Trade Period often turn hectic but amid the chaos of this year’s final moments, the Melbourne recruiting team headed by List Manager Tim Lamb, remained cool, calm and collected and they delivered. The recruiters delivered Brodie Grundy and Lachie Hunter, both best and fairest winners at their respective clubs (and a lot more as well) and Josh Schache who has never lived up to his initial promise as a youngster although he was taken with the second pick overall in his draft year. After an opening week of slow paced trading activity, there was still a lot of work to be done by the Demon team when this week began. A trade was still to be worked out for wantaway players Luke Jackson and Toby Bedford while the Grundy situation appeared to be far from a done deal. Melbourne held a mediocre national draft hand in selections 27, 54 and 67. The pundits were saying that the club’s final position would be decided right down at the wire with a desperate scramble to do deals in the final moments before the Wednesday evening deadline. But that’s not exactly how it turned out. On Monday, the Luke Jackson to the Dockers exchange was delivered in tandem with Toby Bedford’s trade to the Giants. The club didn’t receive the two top ten selections it was expecting but ended with a handy trove of picks - this year’s number 13, Fremantle's future first and second round picks in exchange for picks 44 and 67. On Tuesday, Brodie Grundy became a Demon at a cost of pick 27 with the Pies having to stump up a few hundred grand of his annual wage. Nice work there and a more than handy replacement in the ruck for the time being for Jackson. Then, on Wednesday, the Demons methodically went about adding nicely to its list by bringing in an elite runner and decision-maker with outstanding ball use in Hunter for a future third rounder whilst effectively trading back up ruck/forwards with Josh Schache coming in for a future fourth rounder and Sam Weideman going out for this year’s pick 37(a late second rounder). All done nicely and announced after the 3.00pm embargo and well before the frenetic last minute deals that were finalised in the dying moments of the trade period. At the end of the day, the club was considered by the pundits as one of the big winners of the trade period, not only for what it achieved but for the straight forward way it went about achieving its aims. The final trade wrap for the Melbourne Football Club reads:- In: Brodie Grundy (Collingwood), Lachie Hunter (Western Bulldogs), Josh Schache (Western Bulldogs), 2022 AFL National Draft picks 13, 37, 2023 first round and second round picks. Out: Toby Bedford (GWS Giants), Jayden Hunt (West Coast Eagles), Luke Jackson (Fremantle), Sam Weideman (Essendon), 2022 AFL National Draft picks 33, 43, 53, 67, 72, 2023 third round and fourth round picks. The AFL’s end of season process of trading and drafting is supposed to aid in evening up the competition but the way I see it, the weak will remain weak while the big winners of the trade period were those who finished among the top of the tree in 2022. Geelong, Melbourne and Brisbane have all improved their lists to date. For the Demons, the prospect of the AFL’s top ruck combination is appealing beyond measure. Ironically, the club that picked up a once in a generation player in Jackson, seems to have gone overboard to obtain the magic beans to make it to the top of the beanstalk. In reaching their objective, the Dockers have offloaded a substantial amount of good depth players. They might well rue that decision in the long run. The state of play as at the end of the Unrestricted and Restricted Free Agency Period and the Trade Period FREE AGENCY

 FRIDAY (Unrestricted) Karl Amon (Port Adelaide) to Hawthorn. The Power receive a Round Two selection (currently No. 27) in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft. MONDAY (Unrestricted) Jayden Hunt (Melbourne) to West Coast. The Demons receive a Round Three selection (currently No. 52) in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft. TUESDAY (Unrestricted) Daniel McStay (Brisbane) to Collingwood. The Lions receive a Round Two selection (currently No. 35) in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft. Liam Jones (Carlton) to Western Bulldogs. The Blues receive a Round Three selection (currently No. 49) in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft. WEDNESDAY (Unrestricted) Zaine Cordy (Western Bulldogs) to St Kilda. No compensation pick TRADES MONDAY Bobby Hill (GWS Giants) and pick 40 to Collingwood in exchange for pick 43 
and a future second-round selection Tim Taranto (GWS Giants) to Richmond in exchange for picks 12 and 19 TUESDAY Blake Acres (Fremantle) to Carlton in exchange for a future third-round selection Melbourne trades picks 33, 43 and 53 to Port Adelaide for pick 27 WEDNESDAY Griffin Logue (Fremantle), Darcy Tucker (Fremantle) and Fremantle’s future third-round pick to North Melbourne in exchange for the Kangaroos’ future second, third and fourth round pick GWS Giants trade pick 21 and a future second round pick to Brisbane for pick 15 Ben Long (St Kilda) and a future fourth round pick to Gold Coast for pick 32 Tom Berry (Brisbane), pick 46 and a future second round two pick to Gold Coast for picks 25, 36 and 56 THURSDAY 

 Josh Corbett (Gold Coast Suns) to Fremantle for the Dockers’ future fourth round pick FRIDAY Tanner Bruhn (GWS Giants) to Geelong for the Cats’ pick 18 Brisbane trades pick 25 to The Cats for picks 38,48, 55 and a future second round a future fourth round pick MONDAY Luke Jackson (Melbourne) to Fremantle in a deal also involving Greater Western Sydney. Melbourne gets pick 13, Fremantle's future first round pick and future second round pick (tied to the Dockers) in exchange for Jackson, picks 44 and 67. GWS Giants get Toby Bedford. Will Setterfield (Carlton) and pick 68 to Essendon in exchange for a future fourth round pick Izak Rankine (Gold Coast Suns), pick 46 and a future fourth round pick (tied to the Dockers) to Adelaide for the Crows’ future third round pick and the Crows’ future fourth round pick The following four-way deal was done - North Melbourne receives picks 2, 3, 40, 43 and Port Adelaide’s future first round pick in exchange for Jason Horne-Francis, pick 1 and a future third round pick (tied to Fremantle) Port Adelaide receives Jason Horne-Francis (North Melbourne), Junior Rioli (West Coast), a future second round pick (tied to Collingwood) and a future third round pick (tied to Fremantle) in exchange for picks 8, 43, 53, 57 and Port Adelaide’s future first round, future second round and future third round pick West Coast gets picks 8, 12, future second round pick (tied to Port Adelaide) and future third round pick (tied to Port Adelaide) in exchange for Junior Rioli, pick 2 and pick 40 GWS Giants get picks 1, 53 and 57 in exchange for picks 3, 12 and a future third round pick (tied to Collingwood) TUESDAY Jack Gunston (Hawthorn) to Brisbane in exchange for the Lions’ pick 48 and a future fourth round pick Brodie Grundy (Collingwood) to Melbourne in exchange for pick 27 Billy Frampton (Adelaide) to Collingwood for a future third round pick Jack Bowes (Gold Coast) and pick 7 to Geelong in exchange for the Cats’ future third round selection Jacob Hopper (GWS Giants) and picks 53 and 63 to Richmond in exchange for pick 31 and the Tigers’ future first round pick WEDNESDAY Aaron Francis (Essendon) and pick 42 to Sydney in exchange for the Swans’ pick 37 and a future fourth round pick Sam Weideman (Melbourne) and picks 54 and 72 to Essendon in exchange for the Bombers’ pick 37 Josh Schache (Western Bulldogs) to Melbourne in exchange for the Demons future fourth round pick Lachie Hunter (Western Bulldogs) to Melbourne in exchange for the Demons future third round pick Josh Dunkley (Western Bulldogs) and a future third round pick and a future fourth round pick (tied to Melbourne) to Brisbane for the Lions’ pick 21 and a future first round pick, a future second round pick and a future third round pick (tied to Geelong) The following three way deal was done - Geelong gets Ollie Henry (Collingwood) Hawthorn receives Cooper Stephens (Geelong), pick 41 and pick 50 Collingwood gets Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn) and pick 25 Rory Lobb (Fremantle) to the Western Bulldogs for the Bulldogs’ pick 30 and a future second round pick Jaeger O'Meara (Hawthorn) and a future fourth round selection to Fremantle for Lloyd Meek (Fremantle) and the Dockers’ future second round selection (tied to Western Bulldogs)

2022 NATIONAL DRAFT ORDER AND SELECTIONS 2022 AFTER THE UNRESTRICTED AND RESTRICTED FREE AGENCY PERIOD AND THE TRADE PERIOD ROUND ONE 1. GWS Giants 2. North Melbourne 3. North Melbourne 4. Essendon 5. Gold Coast Suns 6. Hawthorn 7. Geelong 8. West Coast Eagles 9. St Kilda 10. Carlton 11. Western Bulldogs 12. West Coast Eagles 13. Melbourne 14. Sydney Swans 15. GWS Giants 16. Collingwood 17. Sydney Swans 18. GWS Giants
 ROUND TWO 19. GWS Giants 20. West Coast Eagles 21. Western Bulldogs 22. Essendon 23. Adelaide 24. Hawthorn 25. Collingwood 26. West Coast Eagles 27. Collingwood 28. St Kilda 29. Carlton 30. Fremantle 31. GWS Giants 32. St Kilda 33. Port Adelaide 34. Brisbane 35. Brisbane 36. Brisbane 37. Melbourne 38. Brisbane ROUND THREE 39. Western Bulldogs 40. North Melbourne 41. Hawthorn 42. Sydney Swans 43. North Melbourne 44. Fremantle 45. Gold Coast Suns 46. Adelaide 47. St Kilda 48. Hawthorn 49. Carlton 50. Hawthorn 51. Collingwood 52. Hawthorn 53. Richmond 54. Essendon 55. Brisbane 56. Brisbane 57. GWS Giants 58. Geelong ROUND FOUR 59. North Melbourne 60. Port Adelaide 61. GWS Giants 62. Essendon 63. Richmond 64. Geelong 65. Hawthorn 66. Carlton 67. Fremantle 68. Essendon 69. Western Bulldogs 70. North Melbourne 71. Gold Coast Suns 72. Essendon 73. Brisbane 74. Gold Coast Suns 75. Sydney Swans 76. Fremantle ROUND FIVE 77. North Melbourne 78. West Coast Eagles 79. GWS Giants 80. Essendon 81. Adelaide 82. Hawthorn 83. Gold Coast Suns 84. Port Adelaide 85. St Kilda 86. Carlton 87. Western Bulldogs 88. Richmond 89. Fremantle 90. Melbourne 91. Brisbane 92. Collingwood 93. Sydney Swans 94. Geelong

The state of play as at the end of the Unrestricted and Restricted Free Agency Period and the Trade Period FREE AGENCY FRIDAY (Unrestricted) Karl Amon (Port Adelaide) to Hawthorn. The Power receive a Round Two selection (currently No. 27) in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft. MONDAY (Unrestricted) Jayden Hunt (Melbourne) to West Coast. The Demons receive a Round Three selection (currently No. 52) in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft. TUESDAY (Unrestricted) Daniel McStay (Brisbane) to Collingwood. The Lions receive a Round Two selection (currently No. 35) in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft. Liam Jones (Carlton) to Western Bulldogs. The Blues receive a Round Three selection (currently No. 49) in the 2022 NAB AFL Draft. WEDNESDAY (Unrestricted) Zaine Cordy (Western Bulldogs) to St Kilda. No compensation pick TRADES MONDAY Bobby Hill (GWS Giants) and pick 40 to Collingwood in exchange for pick 43 and a future second-round selection Tim Taranto (GWS Giants) to Richmond in exchange for picks 12 and 19 TUESDAY Blake Acres (Fremantle) to Carlton in exchange for a future third-round selection Melbourne trades picks 33, 43 and 53 to Port Adelaide for pick 27 WEDNESDAY Griffin Logue (Fremantle), Darcy Tucker (Fremantle) and Fremantle’s future third-round pick to North Melbourne in exchange for the Kangaroos’ future second, third and fourth round pick GWS Giants trade pick 21 and a future second round pick to Brisbane for pick 15 Ben Long (St Kilda) and a future fourth round pick to Gold Coast for pick 32 Tom Berry (Brisbane), pick 46 and a future second round two pick to Gold Coast for picks 25, 36 and 56 THURSDAY Josh Corbett (Gold Coast Suns) to Fremantle for the Dockers’ future fourth round pick FRIDAY Tanner Bruhn (GWS Giants) to Geelong for the Cats’ pick 18 Brisbane trades pick 25 to The Cats for picks 38,48, 55 and a future second round a future fourth round pick MONDAY Luke Jackson (Melbourne) to Fremantle in a deal also involving Greater Western Sydney. Melbourne gets pick 13, Fremantle's future first round pick and future second round pick (tied to the Dockers) in exchange for Jackson, picks 44 and 67. GWS Giants get Toby Bedford. Will Setterfield (Carlton) and pick 68 to Essendon in exchange for a future fourth round pick Izak Rankine (Gold Coast Suns), pick 46 and a future fourth round pick (tied to the Dockers) to Adelaide for the Crows’ future third round pick and the Crows’ future fourth round pick The following four-way deal was done - North Melbourne receives picks 2, 3, 40, 43 and Port Adelaide’s future first round pick in exchange for Jason Horne-Francis, pick 1 and a future third round pick (tied to Fremantle) Port Adelaide receives Jason Horne-Francis (North Melbourne), Junior Rioli (West Coast), a future second round pick (tied to Collingwood) and a future third round pick (tied to Fremantle) in exchange for picks 8, 43, 53, 57 and Port Adelaide’s future first round, future second round and future third round pick West Coast gets picks 8, 12, future second round pick (tied to Port Adelaide) and future third round pick (tied to Port Adelaide) in exchange for Junior Rioli, pick 2 and pick 40 GWS Giants get picks 1, 53 and 57 in exchange for picks 3, 12 and a future third round pick (tied to Collingwood) TUESDAY Jack Gunston (Hawthorn) to Brisbane in exchange for the Lions’ pick 48 and a future fourth round pick Brodie Grundy (Collingwood) to Melbourne in exchange for pick 27 Billy Frampton (Adelaide) to Collingwood for a future third round pick Jack Bowes (Gold Coast) and pick 7 to Geelong in exchange for the Cats’ future third round selection Jacob Hopper (GWS Giants) and picks 53 and 63 to Richmond in exchange for pick 31 and the Tigers’ future first round pick WEDNESDAY Aaron Francis (Essendon) and pick 42 to Sydney in exchange for the Swans’ pick 37 and a future fourth round pick Sam Weideman (Melbourne) and picks 54 and 72 to Essendon in exchange for the Bombers’ pick 37 Josh Schache (Western Bulldogs) to Melbourne in exchange for the Demons future fourth round pick Lachie Hunter (Western Bulldogs) to Melbourne in exchange for the Demons future third round pick Josh Dunkley (Western Bulldogs) and a future third round pick and a future fourth round pick (tied to Melbourne) to Brisbane for the Lions’ pick 21 and a future first round pick, a future second round pick and a future third round pick (tied to Geelong The following three way deal was done - Geelong gets Ollie Henry (Collingwood) Hawthorn receives Cooper Stephens (Geelong), pick 41 and pick 50 Collingwood gets Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn) and pick 25 Rory Lobb (Fremantle) to the Western Bulldogs for the Bulldogs’ pick 30 and a future second round pick Jaeger O'Meara (Hawthorn) and a future fourth round selection to Fremantle for Lloyd Meek (Fremantle) and the Dockers’ future second round selection (tied to Western Bulldogs)

Jaeger O'Meara (Hawthorn) and a future fourth round selection to Fremantle for Lloyd Meek (Fremantle) and the Dockers’ future second round selection (tied to Western Bulldogs)

Rory Lobb (Fremantle) to the Western Bulldogs for the Bulldogs’ pick 30 and a future second round pick