Whispering_Jack
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I agree with Dazzle - we were pioneers in the field with the likes of Jimmy Stynes and Sean Wight back in the 80s but dropped out a decade or so ago (I was told) because of the expense of the exercise of drafting the best of the Irish male players. Surely, we have the $ today? It’s a question worth asking JT when he next appears on the DL podcast why the club isn’t having another crack at this area of recruitment.
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Well said. I know of one player from the same league where Will Ashcroft, Harry Sheezel, George Wardlaw, Cam McKenzie played, who played against them in a strong side and of close to their calibre who was truly shattered when he missed out in the draft. I believe he’s given up on football altogether.
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Bigfooty contributor Davo-17s August top 50:- 1. Harley Reid - Bendigo - 185cm 85kg 2. Jed Walter - GCS A - 195cm 91kg (GCS) 3. Colby McKercher - Tasmania - 181cm 72kg 4. Ryley Sanders - Tas/Sand - 186cm 85kg 5. Dan Curtin - Claremont - 196cm 91kg 6. Nick Watson - Eastern - 170cm 67kg 7. Ethan Read - GCS A - 200cm 90kg (GCS) 8. Zane Duursma - Gippsland - 189cm 79kg 9. Jake Rogers - GCS A - 172cm 67kg (GCS) 10. Connor O'Sullivan - Murray - 198cm 92kg 11. Harry Demattia - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg 12. Darcy Wilson - Murray - 185cm 73kg 13. Nate Caddy - Northern - 192cm 91kg 14. Mitch Edwards - Peel - 207cm 90kg 15. Jack Delean - Sth Adel - 181cm 73kg 16. Koltyn Tholstrup - Subiaco - 188cm 80kg 17. Will McCabe - Central Dist - 197cm 81kg (Haw) 18. Logan Morris - Western - 191cm 90kg 19. Harvey Johnston - Sandringham - 184cm 76kg 20. Ollie Murphy - Sandringham - 200cm 85kg 21. Will Patton - Wst Adel - 192cm 79kg 22. Caleb Windsor - Eastern - 184cm 74kg 23. Koen Sanchez - East Frem - 178cm 71kg 24. Jordan Croft - Calder - 200cm 80kg (WB) 25. Archer Reid - Gippsland - 203cm 93kg 26. Ashton Moir - Glenlg - 188cm 84kg 27. Will Lorenz - Oakleigh - 186cm 70kg 28. Clay Hall - Peel - 190cm 85kg 29. James Leake - Tasmania - 188cm 74kg 30. Riley Hardeman - Swan Dist - 188cm 80kg 31. Wil Dawson - Gippsland - 200cm 86kg 32. Joel Freijah - GWV - 191cm 86kg 33. Phoenix Gothard - Murray - 178cm 70kg 34. Will Brown - Sandringham - 194cm 86kg 35. Jack Callinan - Tasmania - 179cm 77kg 36. Luca Slade - Sturt - 180cm 70kg 37. Luamon Lual - GWV - 181cm 71kg (WB) 38. Lachlan Smith - Murray - 202cm 97kg 39. George Stevens - GWV - 189cm 84kg 40. Caiden Cleary - Syd A - 180cm 77kg (Syd) 41. Heath Ollington - Tasmania - 190cm 81kg (19yo) 42. Billy Wilson - Dandenong - 182cm 71kg 43. Will Green - Northern - 204cm 89kg 44. Vigo Visentini - Sandringham - 203cm 97kg 45. Aiden O'Driscoll - Perth - 177cm 70kg 46. Michael Rudd - Geelong - 192cm 91kg 47. Archie Roberts - Sandringham - 184cm 77kg 48. Harvey Thomas - GWS A - 175cm 68kg (GWS) 49. Bodie Ryan - Glenlg - 188cm 50. Kade De La Rue - Dandenong - 184cm 77kg
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And that opens the door for someone to take Daniel Curtin who, isn’t Reid but by all accounts, could be an out and out star.
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Aaron Cadman was the #1 pick in last year’s draft. He’s around the same height as Jefferson and probably weighs a bit more. GWS have given him three AFL games but he’s way off the pace which is par for the course for KPF’s in their first couple of years. Jefferson isn’t all that far behind Cadman but I wouldn’t be expecting a great deal from either until 2025 which will be the third season after being drafted.
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He’s not even Harpo Marx. Happy to love him for how he plays footy rather than for his eloquence in front of a microphone.
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For completeness, former players Fischer McAsey (Adelaide) and Jason Castagna (Richmond) who announced their retirements before the start of the season, have been added to the list.
Up the Grades: Reid runs rampant in new colours
True, but these losses could very well be offset by the potential return from injuries of Clayton Oliver, Tom McDonald and Kye Turner to return us to the status quo. Also Carlton has a big injury list of its own.
In 1987, Melbourne had a 6 - 10 record after 16 matches and were considered as having no hope of making the finals. We then won the next six matches to fall into the final five by half a game ahead of Geelong and Footscray. That was the year that we beat the Bulldogs at the Whitten Oval and the Hawks beat the Cats in Round 22 which enabled us to compete in the finals for the first time since 1964. Our run continued into the finals with a 118-point win over North Melbourne in the Elimination Final (hoping for an encore today) and a 76 point win over Sydney in the Semi Final. It took Gary Buckenara’s goal after the siren (courtesy of that controversial 15m penalty against Jimmy) to end our run in the Preliminary Final. I think our form swing in 1987 was equivalent to Carlton’s this year.
No - it won’t be as easy as last time. The mindset and makeup of both teams has changed over the past few months but we do know that the team can get the job done by applying itself in the same way it has done over the past month. A good win could well see us in second place on the ladder, with a top four place all but guaranteed, some challenging games to keep us focused ahead of the finals and some handy players to return to the side. What more could you want at this time of the year?
Can’t take the run home for granted now. As we saw today, even the most lowly of clubs is capable of causing an upset and they all would love to take a big scalp.
Robbie was the best thing to ever come out of Murrumbeena where I spent some of the early days of my working life … Robbie (r) with his last coach John Northey
It looks like the Suns are about to fall out of contention. So far, the round hasn’t been kind to the replacement coaches. Ratten out altogether, McQualter almost out after last night and Steven King looking like one of the sad and tired victims in one of his namesake’s novels.
On the subject of the VFL, based on the fact two of the North Melbourne emergencies Powell and Young are playing today which means that Cunnington and Lazzaro are the two emergencies who traveled to Hobart. Clarkson ruled the former out yesterday, so Lazzaro is the likely sub tomorrow.
The Essendon VFL game is over - an 8 point win to Southport. Reid had another 9 touches to finish with 23 for the match, third most in the team. Second in terms of DT. A handy performance.
Harley Reid is having a run with the Essendon VFL side up on the Gold Coast against Southport. The Bombers have not been enjoying much of a season but lead last year’s runners up by 8 points at half time. Young Harley leads his team in Dream Team Points and is equal first for them in possessions with 14. That’s not bad but let’s see if he can stay at that level for the full game.
Is there any vision available of him playing?
Unfortunate for the Tigers with that five day break and the need to manage two of their veterans as well as the last minute loss of another veteran in Grimes. The result gave the appearance of a team waving the white flag - they looked out of it both physically and mentally from the outset. This could also make or break McQualter’s coaching ambitions so it’s going to be interesting to see if he can get them to reset in the final three rounds.
Today’s media is enraptured with Carlton forward Charlie Curnow and rightly so after his recent goal kicking feats. He was highly touted as a potential high draft pick during his draft year (2015) but a story came out just before the draft about an alleged (I stress “alleged”) indiscretion involving driving and alcohol which caused him to slide down the ranks. He was eventually picked at 12 by Carlton where his brother Ed was already a senior list player. He was the Blues’ third pick in that draft behind Jacob Weitering (#1) and Harry McKay (#10). Curnow was considered a bit of a “slider” as many pundits had him well inside their top ten. Melbourne had two top ten picks in that year and struck it rich with their pick four in Clayton Oliver who was a bit of a “bolter” having been well outside the early top ten boards. The Demons chose Sam Weideman at #9 so our recruiters considered him better than two ultimate Coleman Medalists. We weren’t the only club that would be ruing the fact that they allowed Curnow to slide in his draft year - the Lions selected current Demon Josh Schache at pick 2 in the same draft. So, when we mull over the pros and cons of trading up our multiple high draft picks, it might be worthwhile considering that not all that glitters is gold and that there can be bargains gained in looking at draft sliders and understanding why they might have fallen out of favour. These are Rookie Me Central’s top 5 draft sliders for 2023 and they include a player who impressed when he trained with the club as one of two AFL Academy work experience trainees in the pre season. Bargain Hunting: The 2023 AFL Draft sliders
Back in 1990 Melbourne won and the votes went to the Bears -
