Whispering_Jack

Oh for the days when they did the top ten backwards.

Our pick 50 suddenly became around pick 46.

Now we know why Adelaide won the wooden spoon. They’ve had months for this.

Is there any danger about getting the show on the road?

Really inconceivable that this issue hasn’t been properly resolved and the AFL is allowing it to persist to draft day. This is because without certainty as to who is responsible for Treloar’s payments and in which amounts, you can’t possibly arrive a club’s total player payments. In those circumstances, it should be that the clubs involved should not be able to take part in the draft because they might exceed their salary cap once you add payment for players drafted. I seem to recall being told in the past that the idea of list lodgement dates in the trading and draft periods was to enable the AFL and the clubs to keep tabs on their salary caps with the AFL having the capacity to prevent breaches from happening. Perhaps I’m wrong and perhaps Collingwood can deal whichever way it likes.

I’ve had a closer look and I would be pretty happy with his result for the MFC. However, I’m interested that he has Adelaide bidding on Reef McInnes and Collingwood not matching the bid. After their troubles over trading, I’m not sure that they would give up a well credentialed draft prospect who is tied to them under the NGA. I think it likely that the Pies would trade picks strategically to cover such a situation.

Chris Doerre's (Knightmare) Phantom Draft. Every club, every pick: ESPN's full AFL phantom draft His views - don't always match the other "experts" in the media but he always puts a lot of thought into his work.

No joke. Choco took on an aging B Grade amateurs team that was middle of the road in his first season and struggled under the weight of injuries and retirements the following year. The team was unsuccessful but he nurtured a number of players during that season who are going to form the foundation of a very good team in the not too distant future. That’s exactly what development’s about. At the same time he himself learned about a very different community and ultimately about himself. In many ways, I believe he did the same at Werribee. Perhaps, his own development over the past couple of seasons will hold him in good stead at Melbourne?

Spent a couple of years at Ajax Football Club in the Amateurs before his stint at Werribee to prepare himself for greatness at Melbourne. bourne

AFL Draft 2020 power rankings: The top 30 prospects The Australian puts us in the race for Brayden Cook 20. Brayden Cook Forward/wing, 188cm, 74kg South Adelaide/SA Ranking points: 120 (SANFL U18) Clubs that would suit: GWS, Adelaide, Melbourne After growing 7cm in the past 12 months, Cook has rocketed up draft boards after a number of eye-catching performances at under-18 level. The 18-year-old has real X-factor, speed can take a strong mark – as a forward target or behind the ball – and is dangerous around goal. Dan says: When he is on, his impact is up there with the best of this draft class. Jordan says: Cook can take the game away from the opposition – he won a number of games off his own boot this year. Not many can do that. They have Carroll one spot behind him - 21. Jack Carroll Midfielder, 187cm, 79kg East Fremantle/Western Australia Ranking points: 126 (WAFL Colts 2020) Clubs that would suit: Adelaide, Brisbane, GWS Carroll enjoyed a strong WAFL Colts season, winning 60 per cent of his possession in a contest and averaging 23.1 disposals and five clearances. He’s got class on the outside but his work in congestion is now the major string to his bow and he can also be used across half-back. Dan says: I have Davies and O’Driscoll just ahead in the midfield pecking order, but Carroll shapes as a promising candidate for a club searching for a contested ball-winner in the second round. Jordan says: The Josh Kelly comparison has been made and the more I watch, the more I see it. Development of his contested game has been a real highlight this year.

At the moment it appears that the deadline for nomination has passed and there’s no evidence that he’s nominated or been accepted. Unless otherwise notified, he’s out there and available to be drafted by anyone.

Knightmare’s final power rankings before the draft ~ AFL Draft tier list and top-50 (really top-75) power rankings 2020

2020 AFL NATIONAL DRAFT ORDER ROUND ONE 1. Adelaide 2. North Melbourne 3. Sydney 4. Hawthorn 5. Gold Coast 6.Essendon 7. Essendon 8. Essendon 9. Adelaide 10. Greater Western Sydney 11. North Melbourne 12. Fremantle 13. Greater Western Sydney 14. Collingwood 15. Greater Western Sydney 16. Collingwood 17. Richmond 18. Melbourne 19. Melbourne 20. Greater Western Sydney 21. St. Kilda ROUND TWO 22. Adelaide 23. Adelaide 24. Hawthorn 25. Brisbane 26. Greater Western Sydney 27. Geelong 28. Melbourne 29. Western Bulldogs 30. North Melbourne 31. Carlton 32. Fremantle 33. Western Bulldogs 34. Sydney 35. Port Adelaide 36. Richmond 37. Sydney 38. Carlton 39. North Melbourne 40. Adelaide ROUND THREE 41. Western Bulldogs 42. Western Bulldogs 43. Sydney 44. Essendon 45. Hawthorn 46. Hawthorn 47. Port Adelaide 48. Sydney 49. Hawthorn 50. Melbourne 51. Geelong 52. Western Bulldogs 53. Brisbane 54. Western Bulldogs 55. Fremantle 56. Fremantle 57. Port Adelaide 58. Brisbane 59. Port Adelaide 60. Sydney 61. Richmond ROUND FOUR 62. West Coast 63. Fremantle 64. St Kilda 65. Collingwood 66. Collingwood 67. St Kilda 68. Collingwood 69. Brisbane 70. Brisbane 71. North Melbourne 72. Hawthorn 73. Port Adelaide 74. St Kilda 75. Collingwood 76. Gold Coast Suns 77. Essendon 78. Carlton 79. Richmond ROUND FIVE 80. Adelaide 81. North Melbourne 82. Sydney 83. Hawthorn 84. Gold Coast 85. Essendon 86. West Coast 87. Essendon 88. Greater Western Sydney 89. Melbourne 90. West Coast 91. Collingwood 92. St Kilda 93. Brisbane 94. Port Adelaide 95. Geelong 96. Richmond ROUND SIX 97. Adelaide 98. North Melbourne 99. Essendon 100. Fremantle 101. Carlton 102. Greater Western Sydney 103. Melbourne 104. West Coast 105. Collingwood 106. St Kilda 107. Geelong 108. Richmond ROUND SEVEN 109. Adelaide 110. North Melbourne 111. Fremantle 112. Carlton 113. Greater Western Sydney 114. Melbourne 115. West Coast 116. Collingwood 117. Geelong ROUND EIGHT 118. North Melbourne 119. Fremantle 120. Carlton 121. Greater Western Sydney 122. Collingwood

Gary Buckenara’s top 50 prospects ~ Recruiter Gary Buckenara names his top 50 prospects for the 2020 AFL draft

Kobe Farmer’s 2020 WAFL Colts stats - nothing spectacular which might explain the silence from both Melbourne and Fremantle as well as his presence here. My guess is that he might be offered a place within the system - perhaps at Casey - with a view to earning a place on the rookie list somewhere down the track.

I'm surprised that the AFL haven't issued a list of eligible father/son nominees and their selected clubs. Does it mean there are none in the entire draft? [Luke Edwards - Adelaide was apparently told by them that he would not be selected as a father/son]

Today was the day for lodgement of the Final Draft Nomination Form and AFL Father-Son Bidding Nominations with the AFL. Therefore, if he’s coming aboard with us, we should know by tomorrow.

It’s not so much that the Magpies aren’t interested in McInnes but rather, that they would like to pick him up cheaply without having to forgo either of their first two picks. If they don’t trade any further picks, they would have to be hoping that nobody bids for McInnes early enough for them to be forced to respond by using 14 or 16. Their problem is that it’s possibly line ball as to whether that will happen. I’m told that he impressed some judges at the recent training session for Victorian draft hopefuls. Collingwood can therefore be expected to possibly involve themselves in some further trading on draft night.

It’s official. The AFL will have one mid-season rookie draft in 2021.

More pick trading. The GWS Giants trade picks 29 and 52 to the Western Bulldogs for their selection number 26.

The mock draft you’re referring to was done on this week’s AFL Road to the Draft podcast. The aim was to select players for each club aligning to their list needs. Here’s how it panned out - 1. Adelaide Riley Thilthorpe 2. Western Bulldogs Jamara Ugle-Hagan * 3. North Logan McDonald 4. Sydney Elijah Hollands 5. Hawthorn Denver Granger Baras 6. Gold Coast Archie Perkins 7. Essendon Will Phillips 8. Essendon Oliver Henry 9. Sydney Braeden Campbell * 10. Port Adelaide Lachie Jones * 11. Essendon Nik Cox 12. Adelaide Finlay Macrae 13. GWS Giants Zach Reid 14. North Melbourne Heath Chapman 15. Fremantle Tanner Bruhn 16. GWS Giants Tom Powell 17. Collingwood Brayden Cook 18. Sydney Errol Gulden * 19. GWS Giants Sam Berry 20. Collingwood Caleb Poulter 21. Richmond Nathan O’Driscoll 22. Collingwood Reef McInnes 23. Melbourne Jack Carroll 24. Melbourne Connor Stone 25. GWS Giants Bailey Laurie 26. St Kilda Jake Bowey * matched academy bids LISTEN: First-round mock draft based on club needs

INDICATIVE DRAFT ORDER (After second list lodgement) ROUND ONE 1. Adelaide 2. North Melbourne 3. Sydney 4. Hawthorn 5. Gold Coast 6.Essendon 7. Essendon 8. Essendon 9. Adelaide 10. Greater Western Sydney 11. North Melbourne 12. Fremantle 13. Greater Western Sydney 14. Collingwood 15. Greater Western Sydney 16. Collingwood 17. Richmond 18. Melbourne 19. Melbourne 20. Greater Western Sydney 21. St. Kilda ROUND TWO 22. Adelaide 23. Adelaide 24. Hawthorn 25. Brisbane 26. Western Bulldogs 27. Gold Coast Suns 28. Melbourne 29. Greater Western Sydney 30. North Melbourne 31. Carlton 32. Fremantle 33. Western Bulldogs 34. Sydney 35. Port Adelaide 36. Richmond 37. Sydney 38. Carlton 39. North Melbourne 40. Adelaide ROUND THREE 41. Western Bulldogs 42. Western Bulldogs 43. Sydney 44. Essendon 45. Hawthorn 46. Hawthorn 47. Port Adelaide 48. Sydney 49. Hawthorn 50. Melbourne 51. Geelong 52. Greater Western Sydney 53. Brisbane 54. Western Bulldogs 55. Fremantle 56. Fremantle 57. Port Adelaide 58. Brisbane 59. Port Adelaide 60. Sydney 61. Richmond ROUND FOUR 62. West Coast 63. Fremantle 64. St Kilda 65. Collingwood 66. Brisbane 67. St Kilda 68. Brisbane 69. Brisbane 70. Collingwood 71. North Melbourne 72. Hawthorn 73. Port Adelaide 74. St Kilda 75. Collingwood 76. Gold Coast Suns 77. Essendon 78. Carlton 79. Richmond ROUND FIVE 80. Adelaide 81. North Melbourne 82. Sydney 83. Hawthorn 84. Gold Coast 85. Essendon 86. West Coast 87. Essendon 88. Greater Western Sydney 89. Melbourne 90. Western Bulldogs 91. West Coast 92. Collingwood 93. St Kilda 94. Brisbane 95. Port Adelaide 96. Geelong 97. Richmond

Thanks to both Gawndog98 and Goodoil for your bravery in committing to a phantom draft. I like Goodoil’s lateral thinking on the potential pick trades. The one for Collingwood is particularly interesting - I think the way the Reef McInnes pick plays out is going to be an interesting aspect of the draft. The Pies need a lifter and getting Elijah Hollands along with McInnes could be an important boost to their stocks and morale at the moment. I have a bit of a tradition of my own at this time in the lead up to the draft where I pick a player of interest* and I’m going for Jake Bowey at pick 18 or 19. In some respects, I’m going against my grain because I think we have enough undersize players at the club already (nothing against Kozzy or Charlie but I have a view that there’s a limit to the number of smalls you can have on a list and I think we’re about there). I usually try to get to a few NAB Cup games and like to make it for the finals. I have an association with the Sandy Dragons going back to the start of the competition and saw one or two of their games from last year. I’ve also seen plenty of vision of Bowey as an underager and I think he would be one of the draft’s bargains if we can secure him at 18/19. Despite his 175cm stature, he ticks all of the boxes you need for a small forward. Persistent attack on the footy, excellent disposal and consistency. He could just about be right to go from the start and can see him hitting Ben Brown on the chest. With Kozzy and Bowey at the big forward’s feet, the pressure on opposition defenders is going to be enormous. I think the comparison with Shai Bolton is not out of order and Bowey might also find himself playing in the midfield. * the first time I tried this exercise at draft time, I picked out Nathan Jones and a year later I went for Chip Frawley but I haven’t picked a Demon since.

AFL Draft Central’s 2020 AFL Draft Preview: Melbourne Demons. An interesting look at the forthcoming draft from Melbourne’s perspective. I think many of us have reached conclusions as to the road our recruiters take. As spirit of Norm says, “time will tell”.