Young Angus

Lol imagine if we ended up with DeGoey Gross

Contracts go both ways don't they. The club also commits to the player through thick and thin for that time and the player has that security. This is what we all bang on about when contracted players want out. With Oliver he didn't want out he was committed and tried doing the right thing and we all think he was getting back to good. He deserves that security too and for the club to stick by him for the length of the long contract they also agreed to. Pretty [censored] poor for a player to want out but much worse for a club to want to push a great player out especially when its someone like Clarry who obviously isn't your standard type personality.

Wasn't it Clarry's break up that started this whole spiral?

This ^^^

and Stengle!

Good on you Lamby...stay strong!

Nice, not as strong as I'd like to hear but still pretty straight forward and sounds like Trac knows the state of things too and what might or might not get done.

Let's get Merrett haha

Well GC are the ones who need to turn our heads...stay firm and we keep Petracca and he gets to work in "his job" and no harm done. Its gotta be better for us remember, not for Trac or GC. We must come out winners if they want us to trade our best generational player who we know will be professional and just come back to work if it falls through. Everyone forgets Trac is just "testing the waters" and seeing if he can broker the right deal. If it ain't awesome we keep the guy, I just hope the Dees bosses stick to their guns. PS. Tom Morris can eat a bag!

Yes this exactly!! Something must have happened that no one knows about for this guy, who apparently loved his club so much (and we all believed him) to want to go seemingly so desperately. You don't change like that for no reason. I wonder if we'll ever find out what it was and then we'll all understand. Not that its necessarily our business (well it kind of it) but god it'd be nice to get some clarity on what has happened because it must be something pretty significant.

Haha thank you...that's all it is, a rant, I get emotional about this stuff because I'm passionate and this forum is wonderful for some venting and self-therapy when I need it :)

I feel like of all our players Oliver should be afforded the benefit of the doubt with our new coach and system, yes he has his demons but do the right thing by him please he sounds like he's been trying his butt off to do the right thing by us for a while now and he seems really invested. Not everyone is the same, nor smooth sailing, but someone like him deserves a go to prove himself again after what he's given. Yes pay is an issue, but give the guy a go under the new regime don't just sweep him off. Seems more than a tad insensitive by the MFC.

We hold all the cards don't we? All the MFC people keep saying it. We win if we keep Trac and we win if we get Humphreys. It's up to them to make us a deal that's too good to knock back...so it's gotta be good!

Just stick the marks and he would be much better already...I mean that's a big part of his job isn't it.

If we roll over on this deal after saying we would be tough and it had to be awesome for our club etc. etc. surely heads need to roll...that would be a terrible start for our new coach.

Surely we don’t lose Trac and Oliver without getting Humphrey? We’d be pretty sad without getting a star back, I reckon that would be a fail, hope the Dees play the hardball they keep telling us they’re going to play. still so sad it’s come to this but hopefully we don’t feel too hard done by when all is said and done.

Okay yes Trac wasn't responsible for poor crowds we can all agree on that, but his behavior was a terrible look for a grown man meant to be a leader and icon of our club. May was also a shocker, his continued antics didn't help one bit and probably ticked a lot of people off in-house. If he was backing it up week after week it might be a different story.

Probably not haha but his carryon and arm waving and finger pointing definitely wasn't helping.

He had a crack at our crowds, which he is very partly responsible for, that just made me see red and I hope he and Warwick Capper are very happy hanging out together up there.

Petracca can get stuffed but I love Clarry...god I hope he stays but if he goes I will be rooting for him when I see him play still.

Wow Trac is really full of himself, even more than I thought. You know I stuck up for him and hoped he would come back but Trac you are making this much easier because you obviously don't know what the word "loyalty" means and my god you are a "material girl" aren't you. Pretty ordinary bloke if you ask me, I really want Oliver to stay but everything this guy has supposedly "done" for us was probably never about the club and all about him. Mate, go grow your brand, be full of yourself, our club doesn't want fake BS people like you. You will fit in absolutely perfectly on the Gold Coast! Enjoy all the fine food they have up there too. The Gold Coast is to "fine food" what you are to "good blokes".

Why does Tim Lamb still have a job can anyone answer this?

Lamb said himself its a compromised draft so obviously we don't care about picks, unless they are used in other trades. We need players if we're losing players, ready to go players, surely the club and King won't mess this up we hold all the cards for goodness sake! Be strong and don't take anything less than we should!

Flanders and Humphrey for Trac would be [censored] awesome, def Humphrey! Get him across to us, that would be very excellent. Interesting times to say the least, we really don't know what's going to happen but for them to accept a trade for Trac you'd imagine the dees would insist Humphrey comes to us because Flanders is not enough even with a good pick in a weak/compromised draft. If it was last years draft then it'd be a very different story...this year and next year drafts are totally compromised.

Surely that's the only way we let them both go.