Hellfire Dub

I wish Goody or someone in leadership at the club would say something like this in response to scumbag journalists (who definitely find material on this site): A beloved team mate is dealing with well-being and mental health issues. He needs stability and support. He doesn't need wild speculation about his motivations or future by self-interested journalists who have poor reputations and notoriously unreliable records. He does not need distraction and temptation by a corrupt club backed by politicians, media and billionaires to cheat the accounting rules. That club has previous and ongoing form for improperly enticing champion players and collaborates with them by encouraging problematic behaviour to get them released early and cheaply from contracts. To ensure a fair condition the AFL needs to clamp down on that corrupt club by ensuring that players cannot be improperly enticed through payments in kind and other off book entitlements and property given to related parties. They've obviously offered a nod and wink agreement to two current players, one at Bulldogs and one at Demons. It's a disgrace

Yeah, better than coming out with BS about the culture being best in the AFL or best in 40 years or such nonsense.

MATCH REVIEW: Star Demon charged with umpire contact - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1306990 I was there and watched the mini replay (25 minutes) but don't remember seeing what this incident was,!?

At the ground last night we were lucky to be dealt a winning hand of four aces and one Jack: Bowser, Max, Sparrow, Chandler and Jack Viney.

Even when we were winning Goodwin had us playing a bruising ugly style of football (bar 2018) that was always about Contest and Defence. It was never contest, defence and Kicking Goals. It was getting it forward, locking it in their territory and hoping that statistically we'd keep their scores low and score a few more than them. It was tedious and painful to watch us grinding out games and it would be exhausting and painful to play. That style of play does not have longevity. It would take a huge physical toll on players like Viney, Gawn, Oliver, May etc and we're seeing the downside of that now. So yes some of them look exhausted and slow, some of them are physically broken, midfield and followers are institutionalised. Forwards are totally demoralised and let down by lack of coaching in forward craft. There's a focus on defence first and bombing it to contests, whilst discouraging leads. That bit is incomprehensible, but SG doesn't prioritise offence. They're all symptoms. The cause is the coach. Time to address the cause

I think you're right with some of these appraisals. Nevertheless some of these are still young players and even some of the older ones could be playing better than they are. But looking at the body language it seems like team spirit is shot. The selfish carry on of a number of senior players has had a corrosive effect. And that's selfishness on and off the field. Even a diehard Demon like Viney cooking up that payday extension wasn't a good look. Every man for himself is the vibe from quite a few. My perception of their body language and playing way below their capability accords with something you said about a work to rule. I think they don't want to win as a protest to force a change of coach. If that's the case it must be pretty bad internally to have them resort to that. If this is correct they must collectively think that literally any other option would be better. Or maybe it's a combination of ageing players, entitled selfish players, incapable players and poor coaching? I'll go again tomorrow, but I won't bring my kids. I'm dreading it, like the prospect of voluntarily submitting to a punishment beating.

The prospect of us playing exciting football that challenges our players to reach their skilful potential. The prospect that we might finally cohesively connect midfield and forwardline and score plentiful goals. The presumption that soon there'll be a change in coaching staff who bring this about. I hope they will create an environment that encourages creative, joyful, positive attacking football that's fun for them to play and for us to watch. The glimmer of hope about having a home ground at some stage within a decade.

It might have been something I wrote as a joke and I apologise if that's what you're referring to Andy

Or Kompromat? I jest

Woof woof woof! Warning barks from me! I really really hate the idea of Bevo becoming our coach. He's as stubborn and tactically rigid as a dog with a bone. His list of quality greyhounds has performed more like whippets. He really plays favourites with some whilst leaving others in the doghouse. GRRRRR! NO BEVO, NO! BAD DOGGIE, BACK TO YOUR KENNEL

Hi FG, how do we contact the club? I've only ever seen a membership email address

That article in the Age about Longmire last weekend talked about he's enjoying developing his new training coaching business associated with the Swans. It also talked about how he was enjoying spending time with his children and travelling. It didn't sound like a fella who'd be in a hurry to move interstate and reverse commute to Casey fields.

It's very simple stuff that's not happening. 2 goals in a first half. I've said it before on here but back in my amateur Gaelic Football days (where it's hard to score in the small goal with a keeper), that would be embarrassingly low. It was so painful to watch the first half and last quarter. Who will lead towards a ball carrier? Who will kick it to their advantage? We got goals when we lowered our eyes or when we turned inside. Why defend grass and let them accumulate their highest ever number of disposals? Why tackle low and let them handpass? Or throw out a weak outstretched arm they can just run through? Why let them run out the clock? Where was the pride in letting them score 5:1 goals in the last quarter?

Five goals to one in the last quarter. 57 points! Other teams are laughing at us.

This is great news! Even off the pitch good old Bailey was working the body under the high balls and hitting the target last July

If we had generous billionaire sponsors who would gift properties, vehicles and lucrative sponsorship deals to players and their families it would help.

Why don't we have a CEO at the moment? When is there likely to be one appointed? Is the board recruiting and who are the likely candidates? Is it unusual for an entity to have a temporary President and no CEO?

Yze is a brain, as he showed onfield for the Dees. I really feel our negligence in not keeping him, to ascend (at least a year ago) to Goodwin's position, was a critical miscalculation; geez You're right Deemania, we were such a badly run club to renew SG and let Yze go. Now we get to watch our team swap places with them. Other clubs and coaches are laughing at us.

As the Devil we all know best ElDiablo, Goodwin has made a plan to coach until the end of his contract terms. Once he makes a plan he sticks to it doggedly for better or worse despite the evidence to the contrary or the negative outcome. He just loves lifelong learning on the job at our expense

Thanks for posting that footage DD. It's just so damning and so obvious. The guy just can't react in games. He sets out a system and stubbornly sticks to it whether its working or as in this case a crazy move. Every coach this season has set their team up with a plan to beat us and they've often adapted and improved it during the game. We're not seeing that and it's not his nature.

I agree, he's not showing leadership and seems to be s strange selfish cat. I don't blame him wanting to leave as Goodwin obviously has no idea and has been gifting games to undeserved underperformers for years. There's still no denying that Tracs behaviour last year was disgraceful and corrosive to team spirit. Apart from scoring 33% of our goals last night 😭 he did lots of pointing and gesturing but not much leading by example. He could follow Dangerfields example last night, not huge numbers but very effective and damaging. And setting up his team mates to score. Not blasting away hard won possessions and burning leads or open forwards.

Staying quiet about terrible umpiring hasn't helped us. Last night was one of the most blatantly partisan displays I've witnessed for any team. Geelong couldn't get pinged for anything and we'd get pulled up for any and everything imaginable. It killed any momentum we were building in the 3rd quarter. And it gifted them at least 3 goals so we may as well protest because it can't get much worse. Its not why we lost, but it didn't make this game any more enjoyable anyway For most of the players our effort was better for 3 quarters and showed a bit of pride. When we lowered eyes or looked inside we sometimes found better delivery and hit targets. That gave me some hope. We ran it out well from defence a few times and played on quickly and decisively a few times. We also won some clearances. In most of those positive passages after all that hard work (we always look laboured) somebody would then butcher a kick up high towards their clustered defenders. Or as a variation we'd miss players in the open in favour of hitting it to a losing contest or a missed low percentage shot. Or sometimes inexplicably kick it straight to the opposition. Such panic and agonisingly poor decision making saw them either control the ball down back or burn us on quick turnovers again. The forwards didn't have a clue, didn't defend well, didn't lead, didn't mark, didn't make space, couldn't kick straight. Abysmal performance and this is down to lack of coaching. Midfielders blasted away hard won possessions then everyone's racing backwards desperately trying to defend. It's awful football. Exhausting to watch and certainly exhausting to play with no reward. Repeat ad nauseum then run out of legs in the final quarter. Nothing is where we want it to be SG. Nothing.

Under no circumstances are they to "Roost it far!"

Pirlo, well said. This was on the AFL app today talking about most and least accurate goalkickers per team: Most accurate Jacob van Rooyen - 61 goals from 96 shots (63.5 per cent) Daniel Turner - 18 goals from 29 shots (62.1) Tom McDonald - 169 goals from 279 shots (60.6) Least accurate Trent Rivers - 9 goals from 31 shots (29.0) Clayton Oliver - 55 goals from 145 shots (37.9) Jack Billings - 112 goals from 291 shots (38.5)

Thank you for posting this NSC. I think our coach's stubborn mindset and tactical weaknesses were always problems but that Yze quietly brought the skills SG lacked. That may have disguised the problems but they became evident when Yze and to some extent Burgess were both gone. Yze strikes me as a serious and talented coach and I said on here at the time that I wished he had been given the role instead of extending Goodwin. There may be others on here who also wonder if Yze will coach his hollowed-out team of youngsters to more wins than SG and his core of premiership veterans. Could he and would he return?