ElDiablo14

Exactly, best case scenario for us is equalization of points. Then percentage will be like a flip of a coin.

I think most of us believe we are a good chance for the premiership as long as we are top 4, so not necessary to finish second.

No, we never wish well to Collingwood. Sydney to win by the smallest of margins. They (Pies) then lose again against Carlton and drop of top 4. That would mean that we either win against Brisbane, Sydney loses against St Kilda (wishful thinking) or Freo to draw/lose.

Would we take Max King ... Hard to say yes with his poor kick, it's worse than our own Max

I am feeling confident about next week's game. If the Saints can dominate the Lions like today how more can the Dees do it! We got Fritta and Brown that are much better kicks than King

I thought Brisbane has a horrible record at the Gabba in finals?

Could someone check what was the average/mean H&A % of this millenia dynasties? Bears, Hawks and Richmond...during their dominance years only of course

Is that list 17 team long? 😁

Filth Park 🤣... Sounds like it was a jungle and not a good one. I wonder why it is still Standing? You can give a better use to that piece of land

I think Frittata has a better set shot, he looks a more accurate kick than Naughton. Them both have different skill sets so you can't really compare them.

I would agree, but I don't know how to amend the topic title 😅

I have been reading in the news and the web all these potential trades of many key forwards or key players (defenders or rucks). However there is not much noise about the MFC going after a tall forward which we clearly need. Is there no interest to come to the reigning Premiers?

I am sure if we had been as ruthless as Geelong is atm, we would've crushed those Pies. Just look at what Geelong did to St Kilda, we should've done the same!!

I know we don't like to talk about it but... Something like our PF in 2018. No more MFCSS after we won our premiership there.

Definitely they are overachieving, but of course their supporter base is delusional and think they are a good chance to make it to the GF 🤣

Well I guess if they implode in finals and next year they are back to the wilderness, all of the current hype will be forgotten..

I disagree, we did have a sniff in the second half. We dominated the first 10 minutes of the third and even in the fourth quarter we had chances to be 7 points up(see the missing opportunity due to a bad kick by Kozzy). On top of their mediocre forward line, their midfield lacks an A grade ruckman. So they lack the quality to win the contest in the middle and on top of that their fwd line may be insufficient to score against good defenders (remember in finals umpires tend to allow more contact and [censored] are not given as easy as we saw last Friday).

They can still finish outside the top 4. I believe and hope they lose against Sydney, and potentially the blues could also beat them.

I wanted people's opinion, I stand that percentage does correlate to success in September. I could be wrong but I did read some stats that the average % of premiership teams is something like 125 plus. I don't think there's been a premier with a percentage lower than 110 since the 8 finals teams system started.

I am not convinced Collingwood are the real deal, my argument is their horrible percentage. I believe NM was the most recent team with a similar % that qualified in the top 4. NM went out in straight sets. Collingwood could have at least 3 or 4 more losses if it wasn't for after the siren goals, GC fading in the last quarter and us missing so many goals. What do you think about percentage and its value as an indicator of a team that can actually win it all?

My kingdom for 2018 finals like supporters 🥲

Did Naughton start as a back? I can't remember if WB started him in the backline and then out of necessity he was moved forward.

Not a bad idea what some have proposed here. Only sell finals tickets to members that go to at least, for the sake of arguments, 75% of the H&A.

There was also that botched kick by Kozzy (the target was Fritta), right after one of our goals (ANB or BB). We had the chance to be 7 points up, instead turnover and goal against.

I think I read somewhere that the last top 4 team with a percentage as low as the Pies this year was NM. They ended up going out in straight sets (I believe it was early 2010s , around 2013 or 2014)