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Perryman reported to move for $990k x 6 years last year, it costs to acquire talent.

If Flanders chooses us then we don't need to match the picks price.

I agree, I don’t think that contract offer is over the top. I'd match it and let the King vs Lyon factor sway him. Once he chooses us we're in a negotiation with the Suns.

Love your work Jaded but GC and Adelaide are a lot closer to success than Melbourne. I'll be surprised if GC doesn't win at least one flag in the next 5 years and Petracca plus Rankine in that Adelaide team probably means at least GF this year. Hawthorn should have a fair amount of salary cap space. 8 & F2 if they take all of Petracca's salary, 8 & F1 if we have to pay some. I'd imagine we would have floated similar deals to them and said "forget the Merrett drama, this deal is on the table now".

Best time of the year outside us winning the flag.

Wait ... what! Max is up for trade? Surely not!

I recall seeing a post on Instagram from the club a little while ago asking players to nominate their next prospect from the young players and 3 or 4 out of not many nominated Mentha so there's some hope. They're hard to find, we tried unsuccessful to trade up for the Wizard and we legitimately warned Essendon we'd nominate Kako which encouraged them to trade their first to us last year.

I agree, a small forward should be at the top of our wish list with Kozzy moving to more midfield. Which one do you think we should get this trade period?

Petracca's 2023 vs Flanders' 2024 https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?playerStatus1=A&tid1=12&playerStatus2=A&tid2=24&type=A&pid1=4041&pid2=6748&fid1=P&fopt1=2023&fid2=P&fopt2=2024 I'm not suggesting Flanders is a replacement for Petracca but he has some decent numbers and is more outside than Petracca which is not a negative with our set-up

Yes, the reason Flanders was ranked so low this year is because he lost his midfield/HB position. That's the reason he wants a trade. https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-gold-coast-suns--sam-flanders?advv=Y And Kennedy is 28, Macrae is 31 and Flanders is 24 - big difference. And it would be a late first round/early 2nd round equivalent anyway in my proposed trade MFC - Out: Petracca + 23, In: 6 + Flanders Adelaide - Out: 14 + 41 + F1st, In: Petracca GC - Out: 6 + Flanders (1659pts), In: 14 + 23 + 41 + F1st (1915pts) It's easy to throw darts, it's harder to come up with solutions ...

Like where?

Agree. Adelaide needs to take all or most of Trac's contract for 14 + 41 + F1. They're trying to buy a flag with that trade.

Here's an estimate of the Suns Academy selections requirements this year with the new draft points scheme. Here's the new draft points scheme (scroll to the bottom): https://www.afl.com.au/news/1223455/the-draft-change-adding-another-element-to-upcoming-trade-frenzy Here's Cal Twomey's September Draft Ranking that came out today, it's a ranking not a Phantom draft but I think it's the best guide we have on their players: https://www.afl.com.au/news/1427257/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-september-ranking 2 - Zeke Uwland = 2481 4 - Dylan Patterson = 1962 26 - Beau Addinsall = 561 Total = 5004 with 10% discount 4504 points Gold Coast's current Draft hand: https://www.draftguru.com.au/years/2025/provisional-draft-order/final-before-draft 6 = 1659 13 = 1080 16 = 924 31 = 429 Total = 4092 points Currently GC are short 412 points for their Academy players, that's equivalent to pick 31. They really need to retain pick 6 or get greater pick value from trading it. They can get more points from trading Flanders to make up the deficit. People think they are the ideal trading partner for Petracca but that's simply not true, they're short of points. IMHO Adelaide are a much better trading partner in a 3-way with GC, as suggested by @GS_1905 : MFC - Out: Petracca + 23, In: 6 + Flanders Adelaide - Out: 14 + 41 + F1st, In: Petracca GC - Out: 6 + Flanders (1659pts), In: 14 + 23 + 41 + F1st (1915pts) That gives GC very close to enough points to cover their Academy players with a very small 2026 deficit (all they need is for Uwland or Patterson to be bid a pick later and they're fine) and Adelaide's F1st for Flanders. I think the other two deals for MFC and Adelaide are pretty fair, I know some won't agree.

Is that a Phantom or your ranking?

I think that's a very good deal all around if Trac nominates Adelaide. With the new points scheme 6 is worth 1659 while 14 (1024) + 23 (653) = 1677, so GC effectively get the Adelaide F1 for Flanders and retain the points they need for Uwland and Patterson. We get Flanders and an early pick for some JT magic. Adelaide get the key to unlocking a flag.

14 and Rachele or 14 and their F1 to GC for Flanders.

I think McStay and Hosken-Elliott in place of Mihocek and Pendlebury would have been a good move.

With the revised points scheme GC are probably going to need 6 to have enough points to pay for Uwland and Patterson - which is a good thing. 13 plus Flanders might be the best we can do. It's hard to see Adelaide offering better than that. If JT likes someone, we can probably trade 13 into the top 10 using some of 23, the May trade and Spargo compo. We don't have the list space to take many picks.

Gettable

Petracca is gone, if he wasn't he or his manager would be in the media saying he loves the club. That's partly why we're into Flanders and Simpkin - we'd need some midfield experience. Not that they replace him, but we're not in rebuild mode

Great interview with Ooze on Garry and Tim's show today on podcast. He seems a ripper. Anyway he did confirm that Chappy has a year to run on his contract and will be staying at MFC.

Mihocek in, Petty back, May out.

True but even they started 4-5 in his first year before it clicked.

Agree, not more than Milera, Laird or Smith anyway. Judd's not going to be Daniel Rioli. I really hope he stays, he's a good player - clean ball handler, good movement and decision maker. I rate him.

I predict there will be significant initial pain as King implements gameplan change. In about R5 2024 we absolutely belted Hawthorn 93-39 and they looked miles off in system and talent at 0-5. Nek minnit they're winning finals that same year when it all clicked. I think early patience will be required, something Demonland is not renowned for. Turbulence ahead, fasten seatbelts.