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I think it's 8 and our F1 for 2 and 13 and we promise not to take WC's WA prospect at 7. Our F1 has a lot of value, clubs will think we finish 14th or worse next year. But we'd really want the player at 2 to do this.

2 is a lot more valuable than 3 because it's before any Richmond picks. And 3 is a lot more valuable than 4 because Richmond aren't going to trade their first pick but they would trade their second one. Despite points value, 7 and 8 isn't getting 2 and it isn't even getting 3 but it's too much for 4. Clubs will be thinking we finish bottom 6 next year, possibly bottom 4 or worse, so our F1 has a lot of value. They will also be thinking GC finishes top 6, possibly top 4 or better so that F1 has a lot less value. I think our F1 is probably about equal value with 7 and 8. Ask yourself whether you'd trade it for 7 and 8? Our F1 and 8 probably gets 2 and 13 provided we promise WC not to pick the WA guy at 7. We'd have to love Robey.

Other options urgently for what role? Berry is described as a 194cm mobile defender. We're very well stocked there.

I think pick trading up to and during this year's draft is going to be very interesting. We know who currently has 2025 picks but the two other things that are very important are who has highly rated Academy and F/S prospects for 2026 and what range do you think teams will finish in 2026. These two factors will heavily influence the possible movement of future 2026 picks. It's really impossible to predict what might be possible without taking all that into consideration. There's not a lot of current detail on 2026 prospects AFAIK (yeah Cody Walker is a top prospect), and it's personal speculation where teams might finish.

It will be interesting to see how he goes under Kingball. Like Spargo he was assigned a very rigid defensive role under Goodwin. I've watched him run up and down protecting a lane all quarter for no personal reward. He's very disciplined. Spargo left for more freedom, Sparrow should get some under King.

CP3 now?

Steven May is a superior and more versatile footballer than Lever or TMac and I'd struggle to see Adams played ahead of him unless we're full development mode. The reason he was on the trade table wasn't about football abilty. I think he has to figure in best 23 and if he can reform his ways under the new regime maybe there's an extension there.

Agree but maybe it's King's special subject and he can cover the gap on strategy and Jones can manage execution.

I read or heard somewhere Nathan Jones referred to as "midfield coach", I think it was in relation to the Steele recruitment.

B: Howes Petty May HB: Jiath Turner Bowey C: Langdon Rivers Windsor R: Gawn Steele Pickett HF: Langford JVR Chandler F: Viney Mihocek Fritsch I: Salem Lindsay Culley Tholstrup Heath E: Lever Sparrow Melksham

Ed Langdon?

Top 10 clubs who improved in trade period: Brisbane, Gold Coast - a lot, with Academy players to come: A Sydney - a decent amount: B GWS, Fremantle - marginal: C Top 10 clubs who didn't improve at all in trade period: Adelaide, Hawthorn, Geelong, Bulldogs - no improvement and each has a clear problem list problem, but did at least retain a latish first round pick - E Collingwood- no improvement and no first round pick - F

Is Dovaston > Sumner-Pickett?

Trade period posting is a lot like gameday posting.

I wonder if Henderson could play lockdown defender?

It would be nice if we could turn Oliver into Steele. Use the pick and the saved salary and have the Saints pay Steele some.

Kulcha

Some of us just underestimated how much the club wants Petracca gone.

The problem you are struggling to understand is that we wouldn't have even been playing poker if we hadn't "blown" it up. We knew we were going to lose the hand but we're playing a longer game.

I reckon we've already done that for two years. We helped Clarrie to a better place now it's time for both to move on.

Would have been better if you said: "We did this for a reason"

I think we did it for reasons. It's clear to me that he's recently broken the last straw. There's got to be a line and he's crossed it. We needed to "blow it up" because that was the only way to move him. As others have posted, there's not a queue of clubs out bidding GWS' modest offer - why would that be? I hope he prospers at GWS and in life generally. I'll be very fine with that and cheer him on like Jesse and Toby, except against us.

Bad kick at Hawthorn = Elite kick at MFC?

Our midfield is going to get belted next year, we need more rebound from defence than Bowey and Salem. CJ sounds good.

Whatever the trade, I hope we hang onto 24, last year Richmond traded that first pick on night two of the draft to North for F1 which became pick 4 this year. I know this draft is not as deep but the pick is still likely to be valuable on night two for rated players who slipped through. GC only care about points and the pick will just vanish on draft night one if they hold it and the next pick, 25 ironically with North currently, will be first on night two. Our 28 is nearly as good for points, give them that.