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Very good results for Chandler Sparrow and especially Tholstrup in his first year. Expected for Lingers and the Adelaide player.

Cal Twomey has Armstrong at 10 in his October form guide and Ashcroft at one which places Armstrong as 9th best available player.

Interesting that Armstrong wasn't in Cal's 13 top 10 possibles.

Might have improved his draft analysis from a low base.

I think there's a couple of possible pick trade scenarios I can imagine for us. We might rate 9 though the mid teens on a par and trade 9 for say 15 and 16 with GWS if they really rated someone at 9. That would give us 5, 15 and 16 in the draft. We might really fancy someone who won't make it to 5 and trade up to 2 with North who would likely be happy to do so. To do that we probably need to make the above trade with GWS and then 5 and 16 to North for 2. That would give us 2 and 15 in the draft. But I'm hoping we're happy with who is going to be available at 5 and 9 and sit there. It's a sweet spot to be. And we can take a "smokey" late as suggested by Tim Lamb during the trade period.

Good point well made!

The only incentive for Richmond to make that trade is because they want the same player we want at 5 and the same player we want at 9 (they also have 10). Maybe they do, but if so, we'd never make that trade and give up the players we want just to get pick 24. Richmond are picking straight after us, we're not trading with them.

He's asking you who is "best available" from Gawn, Petracca and Hogan. Put them in order. We'll see if everyone agrees.

and Melksham.

Not after we traded with them for 9, no way we bid on him.

https://www.draftguru.com.au/analysis/pick-value-comparison Average games for picks 1-20 is well in excess of 100 games. Next 50 picks average above 50+ games.

Option C which has been posted is to trade up 5 to get access to the very top end. 9 to GWS for 15 and 16 5 and 16 to North for 2 (better than Richmond are likely to offer) 2 and 15 in the draft.

North have 2 and 62 and nothing in between.

We need to beat both Hawthorn and Collingwood and Richmond to beat Essendon to make finals - Hawthorn is a big hurdle. Port should win both matches and Essendon should beat Carlton.

They've got a source at the club Rumplestiltskin, regularly posts tea that is later officially confirmed.

The DFA parrot doesn't really exist.

Neale, Butters, Merrett ...?

You should list KFW completely separately because he's a B Rookie (and can only be replaced by such) while all the others are primary list players. By all means also list Hore separately as an A Rookie too.

9 to GWS for 15 + 16. 5 + 15 to North for 2. Take 2 and 16 to the draft.

Teams can have as many picks as list spots. We don't have 2nd, 3rd or 4th round picks but we've got picks in rounds 5 onwards. These will come into play after round 4 is completed and clubs fill their lists or pass on their pick to retain list spots for DFA or SSP. Our last pick will come in and won't be beyond the 60s, that's the maximum number of NDs in recent years.

I would have really liked to get Peatling but Adelaide convinced him to join, possibly with a more lucrative offer, he had a number of suitors. The deal was always going to be F2 after they'd made an earlier agreement with us for the McAdam pick back for ANB. And hey presto it turned out to be F2 with some wilted garnish back from GWS.

"Towards the middle of the ladder" when we were only Maynard brutality away from the 23 flag? OK. We didn’t know Angus would never return, Clarry would go off the rails and Petracca would nearly get killed when we made the trade. Let's see where that McAdam pick ends up this year it's already out to 28 and will likely go out further than your 32 estimate for the Adelaide pick. I love the way you use the fact that Adelaide are paying more for longer for Peatling as evidence of them driving a hard bargain.

Really? They paid their F2 and got the Giants F3 and F4 which on this year's results would be Peatling + 52 + 70 for 23, not sure how that's looking a lot better than the McAdam deal?

Agree he looked comfortable in the match simulation in the pre-season. He's got some good size too.

Kinda hoping Harry Perryman was the ringleader.