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It's very possible West Coast may be an option, that cannot be denied. They don't seem to have ever been in the frame before but Kennedy is aging now. But I don't think it's a fait accompli that Hogan won't be with us beyond next year as you stated earlier. Lokk it seems we've got some common ground now. I genuinely think Hogan could play key back very effectively. He has great ball reading capability and is a nice field kick. His aerobic capability would suit the up and back between press and zone. Whether he's be up for this role change is another question though i agree. And it may push him over the edge to leave at then end of next year. We've made a plan for him not to be in our forward line next year and we've telegraphed a plan that we need to bolster our backline. Occam's Razor says Hogan back.

I wouldn't. I'm strongly in favour of dealing fairly and not making ambit claims. Players respect that and it makes us an attractive destination who can get the job done. I think it's good that Mahoney has made it clear all along that to get May depended on the Hogan trade. We save face with May too. I'm not a a take it or leave trade hardman but Freo have behaved very unprofessionally and we should not co-operate with them and re-inforce this type of behaviour. Otherwise it will set a precedent we don't want. They have created their own disaster. There appears to be a reasonable price from us in the public domain and that's 5 & 23. Freo could come back cap in hand at that price and a deal could still be done if Jesse would still entertain going there.

Seems to me like the pull has always been from Freo, now that nexus is surely broken, maybe there's a new path.

yeah, nah

Where is he going? Surely the Freo bridge is burnt now. I get that this saga has pi55ed you off, but there's an opportunity to get around him and make him feel at home.

Preuss arriving, Weed developing, Hogan staying. Hogan to CHB as discussed. No need for May.

Do you think Rankine might slide to us then?

Pick 2 + 3 + May + KK our opening ambit Get it done you wimp Mahoney

Surf on Gold Coast pretty good - warm water all year round.

Well they only had 6 and 81 and want Lobb and Hogan so that's a problem. So they did a deal for a bunch of picks including 11 and 23 with Port who want an early pick to get access to the highly rated SA players in the draft.

Fremantle made a low ball offer that we cannot accept. But the hypocrisy of the "hardmen" here is gobsmacking. On one hand it's "5 + 6 or tell Freo to get [censored]." "Mahoney needs to man up". We even had one highly respected poster saying the fair price is 5 + 6 + Brayshaw/Cerra. Now Peter Bell comes out with the same logic at the other end of the scale and the outrage is palpable. You hardmen should be appreciating and admiring his work. It's the way to negotiate according to you isn't it? It's just turbulence, Mahoney is smarter than that and we'll get the right deal. Relax.

They missed out on everybody else.

5 more pages of the same recycled content. Be hard vs be pragmatic, with the occasional "hes a FA next year" fallacy for spice. At least there's been some real actual movement today with Freo's pick trade.

wow nice work by Freo and very helpful to our cause Port still have 6 & 10 which possibly gets them 2 of highly rated SA prospects Lukosius, Rankine, Rozee and Hately. That's win-win trading

Your leased Rolls that only goes sometimes?

Or it's posts like these who expose Cro Magnon supporters who are all club and no brain.

Yeah but you might end up walking home with just the Porsche brochure in hand.

Agree I love trade period.

Yeah look the 4th rounder 62 that we might get back to balance the trade could be useful since we're turning quite a few players over and may still be picking then. But the competition for players is thin at that point in the draft. Don't sweat the small stuff.

No shiit post. Those stats are not from last year. Did you miss it when he dominated against us in atrocious conditions at Casey this season in a rare televised match? Have a look at the 2018 stats in the later post by @Sydee. Scroll across to his hitout numbers "reasonable number of hit out" 75, 72, 62, 60, 55, 50. FML I'd like to see good numbers then! Look this trade only makes sense to me if he's back up to Max. He's not really a ruck forward like Vardy, he's a big 1st tap ruckman. Contested mark numbers are reasonably good at 20. We'd have to be consistently playing a more extreme version of the gamestyle with a ruckman behind the play if Max and Preuss both play together.

Like is insufficient. Needs repost for emphasis.

Crows notoriously conservative in trading. It has cost them big time IMO.

Groin Guru and Snake Baker?

Yeah we'll all be counting the great savings, after we finish runner up to WC with Kennedy kicking 4.

Some raw meat eaters here destined for disappointment again.