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Love him or hate him - JDG goes alright.

You're kidding right? David Neitz is #1 - club games record holder, club games as captain record holder, club goals record holder, member of the Hall of Fame, Coleman Medallist, Best and Fairest winner, 7 x leading goal-kicker, All-Australian.

We've had some very good captains over the years but this guy might just turn out to be the best I think. Since he's taken the role his game has gone to a new level - he's leading by example as a true match-winner. And I think he has a communication style that everyone can relate to.

1994 PF 18 Charles, Sean 23 Dyson, Kevin 20 Febey, Matthew 21 Febey, Steven 22 Hilton, Jeff 15 Hopgood, Paul 34 Irving, Dean 16 Lovell, Andy 17 Lovett, Brett 6 Lovett, Glenn 3 Lyon, Garry 9 Neitz, David 25 Norrish, Jason 29 Obst, Andrew 10 Pike, Martin 19 Prymke, Paul 5 Schwarz, David 11 Stynes, Jim 2 Tingay, Stephen 12 Viney, Todd 27 Wight, Sean 1998 PF 33 Farmer, Jeff 20 Febey, Matthew 21 Febey, Steven 4 Grgic, Brent 27 Ingerson, Anthony 7 Kowal, Darren 36 Leoncelli, Andrew 3 Lyon, Garry 35 McDonald, Anthony 23 McDonald, James 9 Neitz, David 43 Rigoni, Guy 24 Robertson, Russell 5 Schwarz, David 10 Seecamp, Marcus 1 Shanahan, Jamie 11 Stynes, Jim 2 Tingay, Stephen 12 Viney, Todd 34 White, Jeff 22 Woewodin, Shane 13 Yze, Adem 2000 GF: B: 26 Daniel Ward 27 Anthony Ingerson 44 Alistair Nicholson HB: 42 Peter Walsh 28 Matthew Collins 21 Steven Febey C : 13 Adem Yze 22 Shane Woewodin 35 Anthony McDonald HF: 18 Brad Green 5 David Schwarz 7 Stephen Powell F: 24 Russell Robertson 9 David Neitz (c) 33 Jeff Farmer Foll: 34 Jeff White 43 Guy Rigoni 36 Andrew Leoncelli Int: 4 Brent Grgic 16 Travis Johnstone 47 Ben Beams

You mean like 1994: Jeff Hilton. Paul Hopgood, Dean Irving and Jason Norrish 2000: Daniel Ward, Alistair Nicholson, Matthew Collins, Brent Grgic and Ben Beames

"Exactly what we need for depth." Not very compelling but OK. Pull out all stops ...

So just explain to me again why we desperately need Wright when we've got TMac, Weid, Jackson, Petty and even Bradtke already on the list? They disbanded the VFL Reserves comp.

Incredible thread. Nice work @PaulRB and @Grimes Times. BS from the usual suspects. Yours sincerely Pollyanna

Exactly as @Skuit says - you've basically said nothing - so much so that it would have been better if you didn't say anything at all.

No it's very clear what's going on. He finally started listening to the experts in the "is he the right guy thread?". Thank heavens we have them on board.

If I heard correctly Max said in one of the many videos on the MFC site that Melksham and Lever have been recently added to an extended leadership group. If so I'll be very surprised if Melksham misses out.

Goodwin is a brave innovator. He thought there was an opportunity in this weird season to select a very pacy dynamic athletic line-up to get the jump on the competition, hence the selection of Hunt and Smith but it didn't work and he's reverted to a more traditional line-up with the talls at both ends - even then he's shown his courage to select Jackson ahead of Brown. I think the key thing is that with the "Richmond-style" gameplan you need footballers-first to execute because it's frenetic and you need to be able to rely on instinctive skills. I think athletes like Hunt, Smith and ANB who lack innate football skills are not suited to the style. We've been blessed/lucky that we have footballers we can bring in like Bennell, Lockhart, Langdon, Hannan, OMac, Weid and the return to desperation in Hibberd. Of course it helps when you add incredible athletes who can also play the game like Kosi and Jacko.

I'd just like to make a big shout out to Josh Mahoney and Jason Taylor - they work together very well. On the trade front Josh targets his man, convinces him to come to the club and then executes the trade with a minimum of fuss - Melksham, Hibberd, Lever, May and Langdon all essential pieces to the puzzle. And I think that Tomlinson and Preuss can still prove to be astute transactions. Josh gets the essential players resigned with a minimum of fuss too. Christian Petracca anybody? And when Jason Taylor alerts him to special opportunities at the draft he conjures the necessary picks and Taylor duly obliges with great high selections: Oliver-Weideman and Jackson-Pickett.

Massive challenge against fired up Hawks in Premiership mode.

To bring it back on topic - Kosi Pickett will too ... oh and you'll have a new user name and will have always been on board.

Yes Steven May will be an MFC Premiership player.

May needs to play in an MFC premiership team - that was the plan with the trade.

So 3 or 4 more good years left?

Small marking forward? 0 tackles, 0 goal assists.

What do you recommend - a time machine? As Charlie Pickering noted: "When I worked at McDonalds I only got 5 minutes of training on the deep-fryer but still I knew not to stick my d1kk in it"

The tale of two lists: Average Attributes Hawthorn Attribute Melbourne 187.2cm Height 187.4cm 85.6kg Weight 87.2kg 27yr 0mth Age 25yr 5mth 128.0 Games 83.1 Total Players By Games Hawthorn Games Melbourne 6 Less than 50 6 5 50 to 99 10 1 100 to 149 4 10 150 or more 2 Hawthorn need to win the flag this year or next. We've got a 5+ year window open. Only Geelong older than Hawthorn: Average Attributes Geelong Attribute Collingwood 188.2cm Height 187.0cm 88.7kg Weight 86.3kg 27yr 3mth Age 25yr 10mth 135.4 Games 104.5 Total Players By Games Geelong Games Collingwood 6 Less than 50 8 5 50 to 99 3 1 100 to 149 6 10 150 or more 5

Yes good point R&BR. The other small forward types I think were Liam Henry - tied to Fremantle and yet to debut, and Cody Weightman picked up by the Dogs and debuting this weekend - it will be good to see how he goes, he has some big wraps and was probably the viable alternative to Pickett. He'll need to be very good to be better than Picket.

Agree but it goes up a fair bit if they lose.

I wonder if we'll set up at Maroochydore like for the pre-season camp?