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7 minutes ago, kev martin said:

Burgoyne is a steady player, but can be left out of the play. For a small he needs to get either, in and under (not sure if he has it in him), or demand the ball as an outside runner. He has plenty of composure, seems to be able to set up plays and makes great decisions. As Kossie"s mate maybe they will list him and he could be what Bedford could have been, creating magic on the field as they look for each other. I believe Burgoyne needs a feeder.

What do you think about Dazzles comment regarding him developing down back?

6 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

The quote I was referencing is from The Merchant of Venice . " if you [censored] us do we not bleed"

 

Most edifying, I'm starting to think you are being maligned unjustly. A man of culture who refuses to misspell the work of Shakespeare in order to circumvent the censorship rules.

22 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Protection from Fritta that is. Everyone else thought it was funny, especially his parents. Fritta, not so much. He seemed most unimpressed. 

That might have been because you were sleeping in his room. What did Vonnie think, about the plush toy, not the sleeping in his room part.

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

In saying that, if I'm going for a needs point of view then I'm going Burgoyne @dworship.

Just not entirely sure another key defender is really on top of the needs list.

Burgoyne on the other hand would add some outside dash and poise off a half back. Losing Hunt last year and Jetta the year before, I just feel we haven't exactly filled those type of players that being a lock down defender who can some serious speed off half back.

Burgoyne may potentially fit that need.

Thanks Dazzle that's what I was alluding to when I said they were different types.

22 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I have to say that constantly being maligned and made the butt of jokes on this thread is wearing me down.

I'll admit I like a drink a bit overmuch .... and yes , I have a triple x gut ... but I'm really quite a sensitive chap. You know .... I'm basically a  if you [censored] me do I not bleed type of fellow.

 

I'm trying to understand why the word "cut" was censored. Perhaps I don't need an answer to that.

Oh, oh, oh, I've just read your entreaty again ....... are you Andrew O'Keefe? Not sure about the triple x gut but that could be to put everyone off the trail. He is of Irish descent but I'm not sure if he owns a Kaftan or three.

22 hours ago, Redleg said:

I was just contemplating how mundane my life has become, when the highlight of it is this thread on a fan forum.

You could always do a "Lawyer X"

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Players mingled with supporters and went out of their own way to take photos with the kids etc.

Happy to answer questions.

 

Really great to get another opinion that validates what some of us have been seeing. Many thanks for the report and I'm very pleased for your youngster as well. Another diehard Dee supporter in the making.

Did you see anything of Kye Turner? He is Burgoyne's direct competition for the list spot and I'm wondering who you would favour. Personally I see a lot of upside in Burgoyne but he and Turner are different types.

6 hours ago, Demonland said:

He did just before Christmas. Trackwatchers have since noted post Christmas that he has often left the track wincing in pain and clutching his hand indicating a problem that may be new or relating to that pre-christmas issue. 

Considering he had to go back under the knife, it's not really surprising he has been in some discomfort. I think it's a good sign that he is not wearing any strapping/ support at the moment. When I saw him pre-christmas he was wearing strapping around the thumb /wrist area and that was after the 1st surgery.

I'd imagine the Medicos are waiting for it to settle and trying not to aggravate it.

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wonder if he needs surgery and they're delaying their decision as late as they can before round 1?

I thought he had already undertaken the second lot of surgery and that is what he is recovering from. Could be mistaken.

Good man Dazzle, I hope you have a great day. It's a community trip so I would expect the players will hang around and do photos and autographs. Hope you can checkout Burgoyne I'm really interested in his progress.

4 hours ago, 58er said:

DD if it was'nt my theory then OK why have so many Dees fans supported the theory that we should have used more players last season when clearly about a third of our 23 played  injured and also some down on form. We know the results of the last half fade outs of the team and no attempt was really made to solve this issue. 

Because we're fans and not the selection committee. It's called group think, "yeah, those fools , that's right , I could do a better job, correct, what are they doing, gee Goodwin is stubborn, blah, blah, blah", ad nauseam. There are some very astute people working at the Club. I cannot imagine they haven't gone back and looked at how they could do things better and not in a looking for blame way. Hindsight is 20/20 and a lot of posters on here seem to have perfect vision. 

I'll pass my soapbox to the next person now.

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

Realistically though, BBB has 1-2 years left and Max probably 2-4, so that’s 2 gone in a few years. Schache might last the same as BBB, or maybe Max, so that’s another.

But yes, it would have to be one of, if not the tallest list we have had.

At 25yrs old he could also be around for a while if he can stay fit and healthy. Even if that means he is playing at Casey for the majority of the time.

On 2/1/2023 at 10:09 AM, Deemania since 56 said:

Just an opinion when prompted by an article to consider his footballing role. I do rate Hunter whilst at the same time consider him to be very suitable for HFwd Flanking and using his good kicking to score on occasion. That left me thinking about the other wing and the speculation that he could fill it; or, was there someone else who could do the same? Tomlinson once again came to mind, simple as that in the argy-bargy about who, what, where, when ('23 season), why ... etc.

 

That's your mistake right there.

On 2/1/2023 at 8:29 AM, layzie said:

What is Austworld Oval?

Austworld Centre Oval (Outer Metricon Oval), but seriously who cares!

9 hours ago, Slartibartfast said:

 

Can't agree here either.  I'm trusting Picket did actually get to training and on that assumption and based on his report then there was nothing special that he saw that needed to be protected.  I imagine they moved it to Casey so they could get match practice on an MCG sized field and not on the much smaller Gosch's paddock.

 

Forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't the purpose of the work done at Goschs meant to correct that. Otherwise why did the Board spend the money?

7 hours ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Arhh spatchcock!!

My favourite !!!!!

Are you a thigh or breaste man?

I do hope Fence wasn't spooked by a snake.

On 1/15/2023 at 6:36 PM, Bombay Airconditioning said:

The off season additions of Grundy and Hunter undoubtedly make us a better side, we are stronger than when we won the flag in 2021. Most on here agree with how the majority of the side will line up, the fwd line is where the majority of us disagree. If you had Fritsch and Pickett as the only locks, you could have any other other combination of fwds (not counting Petracca or Gawn/Grundy resting fwd) and easily account for 12-13 other sides due to our strength in all all other areas across the ground. Inside 50’s have never been an issue for us, being predictable and our delivery hurt us last year. In addition we have too many fwds that don’t impact the scoreboard. People are quick to point out act pressure acts, two way running but we need our fwds also hitting the scoreboard.

Im not sold on Jordan personally, Spargo out for Chandler and BB out for JVR. Hibberd late start?

Rivers May Lever

Salem Petty Bowey

Langdon Oliver Hunter

Chandler TMac ANB

Fritsch  JVR Pickett

 Grundy Petracca Oliver

Gawn Brayshaw Sparrow Harmes Melksham

 

Having only had a cursory look at the rest of this thread, has anyone mentioned Oliver being named in your side twice (I wish)?

On 1/18/2023 at 6:11 PM, Slartibartfast said:

It's hard to judge Sparrow because he plays high half forward in rotation with Kossie, ANB and Spargo and a bit of time on the ball.  It's not like he's a full time mid and so his figures are hard to judge.  He's also in the midfield with some pretty handy players and is most likely sacrificing his game (ball getting) for them.

This, I went on a bit about this during last season when a few on here were saying Sparrow didn't do enough. At times he had as little as 35mins on the ground for the whole game and his numbers reflected that. The other player who was in the same boat was Harmes. It will be interesting to see if the same occurs this season. A better indication of player performance might be Supercoach points per minute of game time.

17 hours ago, McQueen said:

My suspicion on Monday was groin related based on the type of rehabilitation exercises. 

From the Hun: “The Demons reported Lever had a bruised foot after another player had stomped on him during a previous session, while Melksham has a minor calf complaint.”

16 hours ago, ManDee said:

Have

Who'd've

Happy pedant?

4 hours ago, deelusions from afar said:

Question for those that understand the role/s of modern wingers and terminology such as fat side wing / defensive wing etc.

My understanding was that:

1. We took the ball from defence (eg a kick in) on the defensive side (Brayshaw / Jordon side).  We were setup so that we may not move the ball quickly but it would be harder for teams to win the ball and generate repeat attacks (as predictable as it became).

2. Langdon always played on the far side wing due to his elite endurance.  This allowed for additional midfield rotations but meant that we didn't take into account the preferred kicking foot of him or the other winger/s.

If Hunter is in the team and able to perform close to his ability / potential, does that mean it won't be so clear cut in terms of the attacking side?  Will neither of them be a defensive winger?  Will Langdon still always be on the far side wing?

Great post however I would like you to re post it in the Game plans, tactics and all that jazz thread. I think your questions might get lost if left here. Similarly, I've been thinking about posting there regarding the "Tactical Sub" and who or what type of players might be of the most benefit. This might also come into the wingers conversation.

Who'd of thought Demonland could be educational.

Interesting hearing him talk about his love for the tactical side of the game and then mentioning the the way Melbourne go about it which he wasn't use to. I'm really starting to look forward to him and Langdon as a weapon. Teams last year put a lot of work into negating EL, I can see oppo coaches being faced with a dilemma if Hunter returns to his best on the other wing.

9 hours ago, McQueen said:

Oliver back on field. 

Well he is our Black Knight; "'Tis but a flesh wound", "Tis but a scratch"