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We have to nominate when we are to use the picks, if we wish to, before the season. So if we wish to use the picks in 2012 then we must say we are to use them in a few months time. I wonder if we can trade those comp picks in October 2012 before Nov 2012 draft. Anyone got an answer?

Who cares if they are swapping each clubs 30th best player? Save your ire for deals that are in the least bit important. Like what we do with the compo or the first round pick.

He is doing a fairly good impression of someone who can then...

No, I have only heard that he is having 'trouble.' I assume the bone hasn't healed yet and that is why he is on the bike at the club in October.

I've said enough already. He can play a couple more years and be a very good Melbourne person. But without one particular thing.

He's still having trouble with his foot.

He'll get there. I hear he is still having trouble with the foot. A lesser man will succumb. Jack Grimes will get there.

Really looking forward to his career. Great head on his shoulders. Start of 2013 and our best mids will probably be Trengove, McKenzie, Gysberts, Viney, and Bail. Maybe Moloney ahead of Bail... Brave new world...

Needs to work harder to get to contests and also back himself to get off his man and rebound from defence. Could be a very good player.

Was really good for about 3 months. I think he will be special. He has always had the footy IQ, and the workrate has been there since 2009, now he has the hunger for the contest and confidence in his size and ability. I'm going to enjoy his career.

You have family and friends who love you. Maybe Demonland should have a 'Beyond Blue' sticky thread...

I know your pain... My name is rpfc, and I post at Demonland. Hello rpfc...

Really? You tell people you post here?

I was being flippant. You said this: The cash comes from the Board's resolve, quite correctly, not to pay Scully an outrageous salary which would destabilse the team. So I said this: How cash can be obtained by not spending an amount you were never going to spend is beyond me... You are trying to say that we will spend money on a coach as opposed to a player, I replied by saying that the 'extra' money set aside for Scully is non-existent. We have reportedly given his management our 'best offer' of around $3m over 5 years. With that in mind we can now move on because the scenarios are now down to two: 1. He stays on that salary. 2. He goes and we have $600k to spread around. There was never a time when we were going to match the Scully offer of close to $1m - so you cannot reallocate funds that were never allocated. Maybe the next time you don't understand what someone is saying you can ask for clarification.

'Value for money elsewhere'? I don't understand. Yeah, Neeld at $300k would be cheaper, but he isn't a proven flag winning coach who is out of contract. The key to this 'offer' which I am sure was just ballpark figures is that we wanted him to know how interested we are before he is signed by the Hawks.

1. F... the process. If you internally agree that one person is amongst a few targets, their CV is very good and they are out of contract - you let them know that you are an option. 2. Who gives if we push up his price? We are acting now because we cannot act later. Can't wait for him to sign a contract with the Hawks. And who cares if we are showing our hand? Too many on here are worried about perceptions. I think with our problems - people who don't think we are a basket case won't be swayed by trying to get Clarkson.

I wouldn't say that. It's probably a deliberate leak - get the word out that we have money to spend, so that other people know that we can compete in the marketplace. Also, gets the story off 'The Internal Crisis at Melbourne'...

We are far too cynical, DC...

I am ok with the club abandoning a 'formal process' if they get a proven coach who has won a flag. Sometomes getting consultants in to tell you something means they tell you something you already know or they give you glossy BS.

How cash can be obtained by not spending an amount you were never going to spend is beyond me... We can pay for a good coach like Clarkson or Malthouse because of the fact that we have grown revenue streams and asked fans to chip in.

Assuming his body is ok, I think it might just be because he is 28 and they would like to rebuild. But I know it doesn't look great when you are picking up players not wanted by teams that are not very good... Which is why I don't think Warnock is going to get us a second round pick that a poster suggested he might...

You have got to work with what you can get. I would like to get a 27-30 year old (or a couple) pro who will command a spot for a couple of years and is a good leader to help fix our easily pleased culture. Example - Kane Cornes. I would also like to target a 23-26 year old (or a couple) established player that can command a spot in the 22 - must have a good head. Example - Travis Boak. I don't know if either is available, or who else might be but I would love to get a couple of both.

Yeah, I have a similar sentiment. The issues have been laid bare. We can fix them before they become the difference between winning a flag and not... Possibly like the Saints? Just throwing that out there...

I keep getting pulled back into the scrum... I have nothing to say and it has degenerated back to the 'lying-gate' issue (to throw another 'gate' around) of which I feel compelled to respond to for some reason...(ego, probably) But I am weaning myself off of it...

Yeah, I was a big rap for him and can still see what he 'could' become but this year hasn't been great... Throw him in the middle and see how he goes, I want to see him wear a few tackles.