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10 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Think I said this a couple of weeks ago, but Cats are our biggest threat to 4th place. Only saving grace is that they play Collingwood, Brisbane at the Gabba and Port (but at GMHBA) in the last 6 weeks. 

If the Cats take our place in the 4, they can have it and we can all think about 2024 - because we would have been terrible in the last 6 weeks if that happens.

Essendon might play finals by default.

They are going to get flogged in the first week - looking forward to it!

13 minutes ago, BrisbaneDemon said:

I was at the lights outside the Gabba last week, Zorko and Rayner and some others were waiting at the lights right next to me, I put the passenger side window down and said “Hey Zorko, keep Pettys mothers name out your [censored] mouth” he told to jam it but the other boys loved it.

This is why Andy keeps paying those server bills - to highlight heroic efforts like this. 

Demonland to @BrisbaneDemon

10 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Who’s crying now, Dorko?

Karma’s a big ol’ biatch, huh chump?!

You’re next, McCarthy. 

This bloke unites the football world, doesn’t he?

6 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

Watched the game with my wife and our 3 day old daughter, Remi, in a private room in the mat ward.

It’s fair to say I will never ever forget this game.

We had absolutely lost that game, until we won it.

Melk’s mark and goal was immense.

Signing up Remi as soon as I finish reading some of the threads here - she’ll be a Demon for life.

 

Congrats!

If that’s your first, well done and stop there!! No need for another.

If it’s your second…

Congrats!

13 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

I don’t see it happening with this FD. They believe they can get it going, and also ‘sunk cost’ is more than just picks and TPP it’s relationships and promises made. 

Grundy should look at replacing JVR this season because their forward craft are at similar capabilities. But forget about next year - JVR will street past him. 

31 minutes ago, binman said:

It is a complete nothing burger.

Yze said pre game on abc he'll be back. Gawn said the same post match x 2 as did goody in his post match presser.

The afl football media is an embarrassing, parochial, backwater joke.

How can you say that it’s a ‘nothing burger’?

I literally said at the time of the trade that we would be better off getting a fwd who can ruck and help solve our gaping tall fwd problems moving into next year. And here we are 6 weeks out from finals and Grundy is playing VFL.

The hopes of the coaching staff aside - they are a part of the MC that dropped him and abandoned the ruck duality.

The media may beat this up to within an inch of our lives but it’s not nothing whenever you have $650k playing in the VFL.

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

Memo to Simon Goodwin 

Restrict. Lachie Neale ✅

Play through the corridor when we can ✅

hypnotize Kozzzy to remember the player he was in round 1 ✅

let Gawn have 65% of ruck time ✅

my memo got read 🤣🤣🤣 definitely wanted Gawn as #1 ruck though the Gawn to 90% ruck was unforeseen 

 

It’s not unforeseen. It’s why they wanted to get him help - he is 31 and if he has to do that consistently he will be out of the game in 2 years max.

Remains to be seen how we go forward with this.

Just now, rpfc said:

I thought he was fine, he’s just not as good a forward than Brown - which is fine - he’s a kid. 

I just would want your no 1 tall in the forward line getting to good spots which I felt BBB did in the first and the last.

JVR and Grundy I don’t feel can learn that in 6 weeks…

TMac a wildcard at this point.

And the thing to add is that the back up ruck role is ‘a forward first’ and I think the FD has finally conceded that.

47 minutes ago, monoccular said:

JVR had only 1 kick, 7 handballs, 1 tackle  but  6 score involvements.   8 pressure acts. 7 hit outs   Despite the low raw numbers he contributed.  Would give him another game, especially given no like for like alternative.  he is leaning fast.

I thought he was fine, he’s just not as good a forward than Brown - which is fine - he’s a kid. 

I just would want your no 1 tall in the forward line getting to good spots which I felt BBB did in the first and the last.

JVR and Grundy I don’t feel can learn that in 6 weeks…

TMac a wildcard at this point.

Spargo is a very smart player but jeez he can frustrate when he is screaming for the ball and ignores hands so he can then try to bite off a kick or a shot that he literally is incapable of kicking.

He needs to tighten up his decision making around his limitations.

I would bring in Chandler.

47 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

I don’t understand the talk from some in the media that it’s either Brown or Grundy.

They play a totally different role, if anything the resting Rick should be at the expense of a small forward.

To me, it is JVR or Grundy if Brown’s knee holds up

20 minutes ago, old55 said:

Max can't play like he did last night all year anymore.  We need a quality ruck tandem.  It's not ideal but real quality forward/rucks are very rare.

Yes, he needs to be able to perform at 85% of that playing forward for 40 mins a game. 

24 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Look at how people respond on here, when someone takes a risk and it doesnt come off. People don't realise that taking risks irrespective of outcomes, helps fosters decision making in high stress moments (finals). BUT to then get severely criticised and have the 'shame' experience for chosing the right option (never the wrong option) and it not coming off, is what causes athletes to go into their shell.

Supporters can't have it both ways (but they do...)

Good point.

And not to get to into the weeds with what Macca and DS were arguing about but we don’t use the corridor much with run because we bring all our forwards up the ground, we don’t have many ‘stay  home’ forwards like the Pies do. So the ground is smaller and more compact which doesn’t help moving the ball into the middle but also once we run into there quickly, you have no one to kick to.

I saw in the last that we made the ground bigger and having Melksham lead from deeper made that more pronounced.

The last quarter ball movement was inspired and what we need to encourage.

Jake M was huge defensively and then was huge when we needed to compete.

Gawn was amazing and as much as he thinks he ‘wants to make it work’ - this performance will stick with MC… 

Goodwin and co. are infuriatingly stubborn but they have done a number of things to get us out of our slumber; CP5 forward, Grundy out to allow Gawn to recover form, Rivers into the middle with a licence to kill or be killed through the middle, etc

With Brown back and Petracca and Melksham we look better IF we move it quickly. 

Now spend the next 6 weeks doing that and we are back in business.

34 minutes ago, FritschyBusiness said:

Yup blokes get dropped, players go in and out of form etc however, Teams aren't picked based on player salary - they are picked on player role, performance and team balance. 
Trust me, what players are played is completely irrelevant to the selection team
Not one person at selection would ever say "but we should play this player cos we are paying them X more than..."
They would get laughed out of the room.

Friendly reminder the current best player in the comp (Nick Daicos) is on the same contract worth as JVR which is pre-set when drafted. 

Of course not, mate. Like I care about that. We should have known that Gawn would struggle to become a forward and that this was a gamble that would fail - we should have an extra $650k for a forward this October but we don’t.

We didn’t even really get Gawn to play forward properly and we barely gave this a go and we are off it . 

That is why I am banging on about this.

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

These things happens. Why is this such a big deal? 

Blokes get dropped.

However, as jaded says, $650k worth of ruckman being told he is not $200k worth of forward is querysome.

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

rpfc is a one man focus group

no arguments that way

I am a ‘beauty of grey’ person, dc. But we have to hold ourselves to account on some things.

2 hours ago, binman said:

Exactly.

Far from putting a question mark on brodie's place in the team, going back to work on his forward craft reinforces their commitment to the two ruck, resting forward model.

I actually think it is as much a comment on Maxy's forward craft in the sense that to maximise his strengths he has to play more ruck time coz he is average up forward.

The same could be said of brodie, but maxy is the big dog. And a better player, so it makes sense to have him playing his optimal role.

Yes it does. But it is completely foreseeable sense to make before we pulled out the irresistible PowerPoint last year.

18 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Do you hold scheduled meetings...or just ad lib between yourselves......    asking for a friend....

Look I won’t lie; my present self and my past self have a pretty strained relationship. 

Wherever I enter a room he immediately leaves, and it’s probably best that way.

On 9/13/2022 at 6:42 PM, rpfc said:

Yes, this fascination to make our AA ruckman a forward is lost on me, I can understand him training his replacement but Grundy is only a year younger. We should either target a young developing ruckman who can also get better as a target or a forward who can ruck. 

I don’t understand investing in another established ruckman in their last 4 years of AFL footy.

Why don’t you say this before the trade then?

Oh wait…

Apologies, you prescient handsome devil.

43 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

It's the same thing

If it’s the same thing, why are some spending so much time trying to argue one isn’t the other.

1 minute ago, Pulp Fritschon said:

Pick 4 and Grundy to Geelong? 

For?

56 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Yeah I get where you’re coming from.

I think this thread went off the rails when people wanted the Bulldogs to beat Freo two weeks ago despite Bulldogs being in direct competition with Melbourne for a top 4 spot at the time.

Luckily it’s all seemed to be working out as the Dogs are falling off the pace and Freo find themselves in the bottom 4!

The death ride went off the rails??

If we don’t finish top 4 it’s on us. Forget about what other teams do and don’t do.

So I death ride for all time!

Or until end of august 

Whichever comes first

54 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

So its fair to say Grundy is not being 'managed' for fatigue or loads, he has been 'dropped' and would be playing at Casey this week if they didn't have a bye.

Yes because Alan Richardson said he was to go back and learn forward craft at Casey in the VFL. 

I wonder if anyone has the stats on how many 29 year old, famously poor forward players, have learned to be better forwards in the VFL?