Posts posted by rpfc
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46 minutes ago, poita said:
Did McAdam approach MFC via his management and say he wanted to play for us, or did we approach McAdam and let him know that we were interested in him?Â
Either way, a future second round pick, which could sit closer to 20 then 40 if we don't get our [censored] together, seems a high price to pay for a 28 year old with 50 AFL games to his name. If Joel Smith stays fit, he'll have played more games by the same age and we know how inconsistent and injury prone he has been.
So we are missing the finals next year?
The second round usually starts around ND 23ish. We are going to finish 10th?Â
And we obviously chased him - he only nominate us and we have already offered a trade.Â
Most likely it will be ND37ish and that is fair value.
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7 hours ago, Demon Dynasty said:
It's still a fair way off the benchmark levels being set by many competirors across the land
Especially the bigger clubs in Vic and even the Doggiy's facilities.
For 'some' players in the trade / draft window, the differences could be the tipping point between choosing us as their preferred option (especially vs others also in a Premiership window).
As George pointed out, the line between making and PF or GF can be a matter of just two goals or less!
Missing one VG to top line player (or more!) as a result of not being 'at the level' could end up being the difference between getting there or not.
Those sound like eerily like excuses.
We have enough as 2021 showed. The club can take its time to get the right facility.
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1 hour ago, Demonsone said:Agree with Oliver & Petty..  I’d like the club to comment on the whole Grundy disaster in particular Goodwin 360 in him & what went wrong …will be egg on his face if Grundy succeeds at the Swans even more so if they happen to win a flag!
We never should have courted him in the first place. The Pies are the ones still paying him; I hope he succeeds.
We thought Gawn could make it as a forward - he couldn’t. There is your story - Max will go out of the game in a blink of an eye at the top of his game right in the ruck - he won’t fade away in the pocket kicking three a game while someone not as good as him battles away to make us better than the sum of the parts. His id won’t allow it - it is his only failing and his final fallibility.
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15 hours ago, Adzman said:
Assuming picks stay as they are, and Curtain fell to us at our first pick, would WC offer a future first round pick for him and would we take it?
WC will be bottom 4 next year you would think.
The FD has tried to sell future picks into the present to fast track our build for a flag - I can’t see them doing what you describe. Take Curtin and see if him and JVR want to be the West Avengers living it up in Melbourne.
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35 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:
I'm not as enamoured as many for pick 1 if it means using our F1
In the next year or two we need to find A-level KPF, KPD and Ruckman. The best will require a top 10 pick or even two in the case of a KPF eg JUH (who has put off contract talks to see how next year goes). Ditto for Ben King. Â
Can't see us having the currency to get those if we trade out our F1. It seems many clubs are copying Dodoro and demanding ridiculous trades for even mediocre players who aren't in their best 22.
Unless we have someone on our list/in our sights to replace Brown/McDonald, May, Gawn, I would have been quite happy to trade in another F1 instead of chasing GCS pick 10 (now 11) which will go out to the mid teens.
We could still trade in a F1 (and meet the AFL rule to use 3 picks at the draft):
- pick 6 for the best available midfielder
- pick 43 for Brown assuming he nominates us
- pick 93 to promote Turner
which allows us to cash in pick 11 (and maybe some other 2024 picks) for the best F1 we can get.
But I know it won't happen.
I am a bit ambivalent to getting an ‘A level KPF’ - our forward line is a mess but an amazing tall won’t fix it on his own, and nor can we fix it without a tall threat.Â
With CP5, Fritsch and Pickett the tall can be a role player. But an effective one.
So with that mindset - the desire to get ND1 and get a talent is the right one because we haven’t been able to go to the elite talent well since 2015 (Pickett aside, and Jackson literally aside).
Get the elite kid.
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2 hours ago, Yossarian said:
I like McAdam. McAdam wants to come to the Demons. The Demons want to give reasonable compensation for him cause we're just cool people like that.
Crows don't want to let McAdam go for reasonable compo and want to force contracted players over instead.
Doing the maths, Adelaide sucks.
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3 hours ago, FireInTheBennelly said:
Maybe we should try the old 'sorry Adelaide, it's not you, it's us' trick.
Blame the victim? No way.Â
We need to say ‘[censored] off’ and ‘if you come near my little Harry again, I will call the cops.’
Just block their number.
Although we may need to stay at our sister clubs house… Perth Demons? Stay in Perth for a bit? Are people following the metaphor? I can stop now?
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2 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:
I bet my bottom dollar Norf would have got pick 3 for him regardless. AFL finds ways to manipulate the rules constantly.Â
As for Essendon, lol at collecting rubbish from every corner of the planet in a sad attempt to win a final after 900 years.ÂYes, whether you care about NM getting appropriate compensation or not - I think we can all agree that the Bombers sucking warms the heart and we all hope it falls apart.
Amen.
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If they are not careful and they ‘re-pick up’ a disgruntled player on the draft to spite them this will lead to a ‘restraint of trade’ lawsuit similar to the Bosman ruling that changed world football forever - your contract is up? That’s it- you can go anywhere.
The AFL mediator will step in and sort it out. He’s 28, OOC, not happy, wants to move to a club, more than appropriate compensation has been offered…
It will get sorted.
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19 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:It's disappointing all this. Petty was to be our key pillar for the next ten years. He's won a flag with us, we drafted him in the second round and have developed him very well. I guess Adelaide could say a similar thing of Lever, but this is a problem for us list management nevertheless.
I hope we can change his mind and get him a KPF partner for 2025.
So looking at it from his POV - it was a frustrating season where he played back and then forward and then back and the forward, got injured, had a dispiriting finish to the season, and then had one of the biggest clubs in the country flash their eyes at him - we need to figure out what we are doing because I tell you what - I have no idea. And being a tall forward at Melbourne is not a pleasant thought in its own right the way we ‘move’ the ball.
I think we can keep him but he has to be starting out of the square with JVR and Tomlinson needs to be trusted more than he is and MC need to back in a horse, otherwise… they might bolt…
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7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:
is this incompetent [censored] capable of getting ANYTHING right?
he's a restricted free agent at the end of 2025
if he elects to go and we're not happy with the compo, we can match
ffs, ralph is a hopeless 'journalist'
Rarely do teams match when players wish to leave.
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Training Ground?
in Melbourne Demons
I am aware of the point, but it is somewhat mooted by the fact that Langdon, May, Lever, Hibberd, and Brown are all players that wanted to come to the club and became premiership players.
You are welcome to wring your hands with this but I don’t care. We should always strive to have the best facilities we can have now and into the future but we have enough to continue to be a successful club and attract and retain the best.