TheWiz

Well said. He bump on McStay and losing him for the Carlton game when we were already lacking forward depth should hopefully be a good learning lesson for him. Looking forward to a more powerful and cleaner 2024.

Oliver was injured for 10 games between R11 - 21, and we won 7 of those without him including against Collingwood, Carlton and Brisbane*^. That win ratio of 70% was higher than with him which was 60%. *The ones we lost were by an average of 8 points per game. ^Interestingly, we lost against those same three clubs when Oliver was in our team (Brisbane R2, Collingwood QF, Carlton SF). Perhaps not having him made us more unpredictable? Bit to think on that. Midfield depth or structure isn’t the issue, it’s been our goal kicking.

Why don’t you think it was a coincidence?

Hertz has had an amazing journey over the past 3 years. Gone from Chapter 11, $18bn in debt, then came from the grave back to the Nasdaq, ~$15bn market cap and now back down to $2.5bn!

Apologies, delete

Absolutely pumped with Windsor and Tholstrup. We need Windsor’s pace and their combination with some of the young guns coming through will be a great competitive mix for 2024. Really feel the club have got the ‘needs’ ticked and the balance of young vs experienced ticked. Bring it on!

More like raspberry lemonades with extra sugar from the look of those kids during the live cross to Brownie!

Errrrrm… hopes and dreams? 🤦‍♂️ looks like I missed a crucial step!!

This coming year, JVR and Fullarton

Melbourne #6 -> North North #2 #6 -> West Coast (= Curtain & satisfies their want for 2 top 10 picks) West Coast #1 -> North (= Reid) North & West Coast Future First Rounds -> Melbourne Would you?

Love it!!

Am I right in that we are tied with Collingwood for the most amount of games at our preferred stadium (at 14)?

Sounds like we’ll need to make a “Visy Environmental Ambassador” for $500k pa type offer to get him back out!

Hi WCW, The post was on 17-October. Whilst you didn’t attack their post, your response about the futility of lobbying was: “What’s the point though? What would lobbying achieve? A grand total of ZERO is the answer. Seems the only time we get something favourable is when it’s by happenstance, ie. something favours the Collingwoods and Carltons and we somehow are involved. Even then I’m sure it’s not through lack of the AFL trying to negate such.”

Great draw. If we perform we have a real opportunity for a top 4 finish. Sure others have better, but who cares. Most of the time an easy draw is a hubris trap and you’re not competing against the teams you’ll be playing in finals!

Went downhill after Unilever bought it

Hahaha I didn’t know that!

I reckon the final nail was him going to the races the night before the grand final.

Spot on. We should have said no to May.

Greene had a very solid year and I was surprised they delisted him too. He has been injured a fair bit over his journey previously with the Dogs and I wonder if his latest knee injury is a part of this. He would struggle to get a spot with a fully fit JVR, Fritsch, Petty and Melksham, but would be in front of BB and TMac and only 25/6 years old.

🎾🎾 This year really hurt. 16.28… our premiership this year was in those points Collingwood - 9.6 Sydney - 9.14 St Kilda - 11.11 GWS - 15.11 Brisbane - 19.9 Port - 11.9 Carlton - 11.8 & 11.7 Melbourne - 7.11 & 9.17 We have the worst kicking of all finals teams. Just not good enough.

And that win was last week, when we haven’t won one in 2 years! Historical stats like yours and mine can be abused. Objectively speaking, they’ve won 9 of their past 10 games which included beating Collingwood and Port Adelaide. As they sit right now they have a great midfield and defence, and therefore they are a great team. I genuinely believe that we are better. Still doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate who we’re against.

I’ll caveat the following that I’m extremely nervous and that any team can honestly win it from here. Carlton are a great team, but with many threats from friends of 🎾 emojis (straight sets) incoming if we lose, I’ve got to believe the following… Dees by 36 Defence: May and Lever to dominate. McKay and Martin are massive outs. Martin is targeted more inside 50 than any other player. Midfield: We’ll have ruck advantage with TDK likely having to spend more time forward to fill McKay’s role. Carlton’s midfield has the tilt though. Forward: We’re down on stock, but if we can lower the eyes and stop the high entries, I think our strategy of playing small will beat their tall defence. Hoping the Dees to open strong in 1Q, expect an arm wrestle 2-3Q, then a blow out 4Q.

I reckon he’ll get off. It’s moments like this that can galvanise a team. 12 quarters of footy. That’s all we’re asking for and left. Do it for Gus and beat them fair and square - unlike what they did to us.

Can you please limit the death (been over a few posts) references, torture and assaulting posters and Hitler. It’s offensive and in poor taste to some of the broader discussion of a players welfare. If you want to post about things other than Maynard like the upcoming Carlton game, there is already a seperate thread for this. Lastly, I’d suggest that if you're asking “who cares about Maynard” in a thread titled “Maynard must get 4 weeks”, you’re barking up the wrong tree. Move on mate.