Wizard of Koz

should not be on the list. Looks good in November with first to 4th year players. Then all down hill from there. Rinse repeat for 22,23 and 24

yeah whatever mate. Thats ridiculous. Caulfield is a way better option for players, fans with cars, people who go by train, cyclists. Pretty much everything. No brainer

I dont needs the stats to tell me that Sparrow is a better player than JJ with more weapons and scope for improvement.

A "know it all" who loves to be outraged. Get upset about something worth getting upset about. What did I actually say that was so horrendous and nasty?

McVee and Rivers will both be genuine midfielders in next couple of years

Yes it does strike me as remarkable

Some of you folk are way too precious,

I can believe it. Absolutely. Because it's the first week in December and he has no pressure. I am tipping that has got something to do with it.

Needs to get significantly fitter / leaner

No one is asking to cast him aside. Just questioning the wisdom of a 4 year contract and the resulting clogging up a list spot in 24.

You might be missing a few key words there. I dont understand what you mean.

Yeah .... right. North were shipping him out and I cant remember too many other offers. Either way its detrimental that we have the burden of him being on the list in 24. And he was good at times in 21 but lets not get too carried away with his time at the club.

Way too low IQ for me to want to engage with. You think what you want mate, thats cool.

And that Ben Brown is clogging up a list space for an 18, such as but not exclusively K. Brown.

Once again the preciousness has got the better of you and others. Money, Money and Money simply means "A lot of money". Simple as that. What you read into it is your issue. There is no negative projection on BB and if you take the time to not be outraged you will see that clearly. Lamb signing Brown for 4 years when he came injured is the error. Is that hard to work out?

What is the knock on Kynan Brown?

My original comment was not really a criticism of him (although some on here wet their pants) Every single one of us would do exactly the same in his position. I definitely would. The point is that we shouldn't be here and secondly of course, naturally, money is the deciding factor. Subconsciously if not with pure common sense that would 100% be the difference between playing and not for him. If he was playing Senior Footy at Tooradin, same age and same body, do you think he would saddle up again next year and put his body through the sort of rehab and preseason he is about to start? Of course not. Thats just life. This is on Tim Lamb.

I dont think thats the point though. The issue raised is the fact that we are in the position in the first place.

I have 2 eyes! You have one obviously. Money, money and money. That's why he is telling himself he is not cooked.

This is what a clunky, injured, top heavy mess looks like. Having Brown on the list next year is a huge liability. Will always respect and love the guy for 21 but reality is he is the most overcooked player I can remember ever going into an AFL season for any club. And it absolutely denies an 18 y.o an opportunity. Maybe not Kynan Brown but definitely some 18 year old.

His Dad was ND Pick 66 so there are similarities. Make no mistake his Dad was an absolutely hard at it player who seems to be underrated on here. If he is at that level he is a draft must. Fourth Best and Fairest 2002 Most Consistent Player 2002 Second Best and Fairest 2004 Most Consistent Player 2004

He had some physical attributes but opposition coaches worked out quickly that he had an ordinary footy IQ, made many incorrect decisions and was a fumbler under pressure. If it was not for his brother he would not have played 50 games. 3/10 This is a footy forum not an obituary piece. Edit: Wait, what ..... Freo. lol although I honestly hope he does well and makes a go of it.

I hope we don't have to sit through another Dylan Grimes experience. Could have and should have.

He plays as a Power Forward. JVR kicked 32 goals from 9 games and SVR is not at that level.