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You are making a comparison with a pert developed AFL player of ONE season. Caddy is physically more ready but still needs another pre season and will reap the rewards in 2025 and onwards. Despite his Junior record Jeffo is at least another season needing physical growth and probably a great start in the VFL next season. He may come back ready for AFL but his pre season is crucial and his different style of play he will be known for. He has come ahead this season more than most anticipated and could still be cherry ripe for a debut in early 2025 depending upon our forward setup and his performances in practice and pre season games. He has got a forwards skill in him and like Fritta feel he will at some stage make his mark in the AFL. Hopefully 2025 may be the year.

Really we had 7 bad games. Lions, Pies twice, Dogs, and Freo twice plus WCoast. Swans ok and 4 losses under a goal and 11 wins. Better Team Management you mean Coaching which should include our Forward and Mids inc. ruck plus of course our Sub ( no 23) management.

You judged my post right WCW. All losses provide info or reactions but like the Club need to be assessed and plans formed to solve problems etc. Until it’s mathematically possible I generally don’t write off season or a game during quarter as it’s always possible like Round 23 vs Cats in 2021. In for the long haul !

Ten years of everything you could ask a player to do. Alex has been a wonderful Clubman even above his playing role which has shown genuine improvement virtually every year. And it is after ten years. A wonderful contribution all ways round. Alex and his family deserve our best wishes at the same time negotiate strongly to replace him.

The fact remains is that all that was offered was far too soon for Gus. Perhaps it should have concluded at the time with the. Moment let us know if you are ready or change your mind. No hurry or pressure. And that’s not bring critical to any one as we all know and handle grief completely differently. That’s why an open answer covered all bases. Be interesting to see if Gus accepts the AFL invite to the motorcade of retirees at the Finals?

Different sort of player actually. More complete and no doubt an upgrade on Lachie and Jack

Many layers not players sorry

Who will we get as a replacement? Think through the many players in this move. Jack has already indicated NO according to advice. Anymmore suspicions? Maybe that the sun will come up tomorrow morning?

Yes CF never let a good story etc. What about his injuries his fitness his season prep etc. All major reasons why Clarry is not at his top but you never mentioned ONE. Shame on you. Consistent with some of your posts which are generally unbalanced and quite hurtful on occasions.

Sue you might never make a change if you always wanted someone better. You have to take a chance in selection and can’t make changes in life. Where there is will or a way. Kynan needs games give him a chance. Good for experience or get Jeffo in and make a positional change or two.

With fans thinking like that is it any wonder they drop off. By 10,000 plus once we lose badly. I was at that game and really we ran out of puff after 3/4 time plus it was revealed Maxy played under duress, Spargo was never fit and Billing’s got no kicks as the Sub. If you rationalise that form and Sydney’s following wins in a row then it was not such a bad performance. Thstswhy I would never give up for the 4,or 8 as a result like that. Teams lose and reasons can explain that in more depth thought and a lot more faith for your team.

“The no one better “ argument never stands up as long as you have a player available. Again very iffy saying just for his health IMO.

I disagreed with your baking of Clarry for being unprofessional about his fitness this year. That was clear and obvious. I outlined how his efforts IMO do not represent him in that light. Thsts the issue. But let’s hope it is all for the better of Clarry now and for a bumper return next year when we again see him at his top winning games again for us.

You are not understanding the totality of Clarries issues from the start. I thought most fans understood his mental physical and fitness challenges when it all came out during his return in pre season. You have just called Clarry unprofessional when he made every effort by himself to prepare for the year. He was not under Club control but training with other support and doing vast amounts of running. Plenty of film/photos were featured during this time. Eventually he came back and started his Club pre season but was clearly underdone although we hoped he would get better game by game. Yes he has/ had done some unprofessional things but not his attempt to become fit for the season. That is totally not fair and he should be lauded for the effort/s he has tried this season. Also the other injuries that have surfaced have impounded the pressure on his fitness levels. I think some / many/ few were surprised when he was selected from Round 1 vs Sydney. Not sure that was the wisest move for the long term season plan really. Lets just learn from it all that Clarry is in a much greater space now and give home time now to concentrate on ridding himself of those injuries and when able commence a Clubprogram pre season during the off season. And that we will see the real Clarry again in the top echelon next season in the mid field.

And Jefferson please.

Please ask our Coach about the Sub rule. He is one of the few who totally misunderstands it relating back to last season.

????? Less of a queue where ??? We want him !!!

Definitely get him Dimma not a fan apparently.

Who cares we need forwards not half backs.

To not make changes ignores the fact that we are not getting any better. The Club cannot afford to play this way and continue to bore our fans. Your defence is one of the most listless options I have heard. Any real supporter can see the players are a shadow of themselves and new young ones are getting the skill and flair coached out of their game. Thats why we can’t provide a star or Xfactor with skill to win the close games. We don’t play natural football we play a contrived brand that resists individuals and their skills once the pressure is on to deliver.

He is too slow and will keep a young mid draftee off our list.

Go set up a Go Fund Me for Harley DD as in about 5 years you will have enough to recruit him. I am OS at the moment so will bring a few lazy pesos to kick it along!!

Well said.

If you didn’t suspect that Clarry had some issues this year on the field with fitness and injury you could easily fill the Carlton fitness job nowAndrew Russell has left. Please don’t play the innocent or naive it just isn’t smart!

Here here a few smart arses should look at themselves in the mirror for the cheap shots ( they have known all along his fitness and injury problems). Just remember not to look too long as the mirror might crack!!