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I tend to agree that 70 plus is probably not reachable but if many if those fans who came to our Finals in 2018 attend then 70 is indeed possible. at most I reckon 15,000 Dogs fans will attend as they do Favour Marvel. On 1961 our biggest H and A crowd ever vs Dogs was 66,000 about a month before the Finals that year which about 6/7 weeks later saw us surprisingly eliminated in the Prelim by the same team. If Essendon win noth or even one game and we win both then 80,000 plus is possible on the Round 3 clash no doubt.

They may also be totally desperate to attend at the G to avoid some of the inane BT and James Brayshaw comments so fresh from their minds after 30/40 renditions of the Grand Final. Also the novelty of having not attended and witnessing the Mighty Dees as the Reigning Premiers and/or being 57 years since they have seen our flag raising ceremony again will lure them along. Most of the previous negativity in gaining admission and reasons for non attendance have been well in hand for 2 seasons and would not on this occasion be new for "rusted on " supporters or any Dees fan or tragic who is IMO able to get there for this special occasion. There are also more Reserved Seats holders do that many sections have sold out to balance or increase the ledger.

DD look at George's Posts with figures for the last 8/10 years under "Membership 2022". it's all there for you !!

While I think the Spanish take on our CP5 blitz in the 3rd quarter is exceptional has any one bothered to tell the Spanish that Trac is of Italian descent.!!! They perhaps may not be as enthusiastic especially after this and also that I drank Aperol Spritzes in the Barcelona heat rather than a Sangria perhaps!!! I have nevertheless more than made up for whatever drink including our Premiership Shiraz ( not too bad a drop) that I can get my hands on to continue celebrating our 57 year drought. Still have a couple of Victorian friends to fully cement our triumph in 2021 with a toast before 2022 commences. Cheers !!!🍾❤️💙🏆

How long ago has Clarry done this ? 2019? 2020? Clarry had grown out of it.

Looks like a Rock Paper Scissors gone wrong !!

The same for BBB as well Don't forget he was injured during 2020 and only played half a season during the middle stages. We even stopped him playing for about 6 weeks in the middle of last season to enhance his program and bring his fitness level up to scratch. Weid played while this went on and did not unfortunately perform up to the level to grab the forward post that BBB secured from about the Port match ( seven games ) and the rest is history. Any hip injury for Weid in 2021 that has been mentioned I don't think is correct at all and would sound more like 2020 if in fact it ever occurred. Now BBB is apparently training really well and reports on Weid are not as encouraging from Picket Fence. He has also singled out JVR for some highlights in his adaptation to his first AFL pre season. I hope like all Dees fans that Sam can make it BUT I fear if he isn't given an opportunity as a third ruck/ forward OR at CHB he will not make it as a KP forward.

You fail to acknowledge the While you have provided a long list of half glass empty and worst case scenarios to try and justify your expectations ( based on 2021 mainly) you fail to acknowledge the vast improvement in all areas of the Club since 2017. Simply the Club was in developmental stage as well as the players still evolving and the recruiting putting the finishing touches like Kossie Dogga Riv and Lingers and Tommo and May in 2019 plus Sparrow and Jordan in 2018 draft along with Lever that season. Then in 2020 we drafted Bowey and secured BBB. Also your correct as all Demons fans acknowledge that Chocco and Ooze were pivotal in our success with Goody and the other Coaches and FD and JT and his team. My point us that not all your excuses/ reasons are justified in expectations as the 2017-21 years showed. This year was by wins and performances either the best year ever for the Club or at least the equal of say 1956 or any of the other Glory Days wins. we were not ready in 2017 or 2018 mentally or physically and 2019 yes happened but the reasons are well known not great but it was what it was. 2020 we actually won 6 out of 9 with the Cairns disasters the bugbear and costing us a Finals berth. (We did beat GWS in Round 16 as I was at that game ). Simon like all Coaches has evolved and as Clarkson Hardwick Beveridge Thompson and Buckley have shown it's hard to win flags snd after 4/5 years most are at their peak. You can lie awake each night at these years as missed opportunities and yes I was disappointed pointed as I have a glass half full approach but I can say if you can see my posts from early 2021 I deducted that we would improve dramatically and get top4 if we had an injury free run. About 6/8 reasons including recruiting, maturing ( Trac Clarry Spargs TMac etc) new coaching plus a modified game plan and some good defensive signs in 2020 all looked promising for us. Now we have the opportunity to go back to back for the first time in 62 years and there is no real reason why we won't give this opportunity a real red hot shake!!

FGS why worry now about the legitimacy potential for this years flag ? 1. We haven't won it yet? 2. If we do it's confirming our greatness. 3. Please don't give it as a reason if we don't win it . It's not negotiable after last season when we took all in our stride. 4. So far we are on track in pre season and many things are outside our control. 5. I bet the players are not sitting around discussing any disadvantages of 2022 preventing us winning back to back. 6. Really supporters that do have got their MFCSS back big time already!! 7. we are and last season played any where any time and any way!!! And we won by so far no one could query the season or legitimacy of our Flag. 8. Let's repeat in 2022 more of the same !!

Probably because if the synergy of the Gawn Oliver and Petracca with Jack that we are now lucky to see. For eg if Stynesy was first ruck Todd would have been a better option. In today's footy being an interchange is not an indication of lesser ability necessarily. The medical sub maybe. !

Wrong see my earlier posts. If you consider 9 th in 2017 (12-10 ) and 2020 (9-8) bad years then you are being too nit picking. It's well established 2019 reasons for the 5-17 result and If Simon gets us 2 out of 3 flags by 2024 then 3 flags in 4 years is not the sort of result you part ways. By all means give Simon the 3 years extension but to say that's all now if he succeeds and you reflecting in your opinion about 2017 and 2020 to penalise him then is ridiculous.

Well Binman how do you explain the three quarter time score of 2pts.? Adelaide pressure which caused us to fumble not stick to our game plan and to not provide a physical contest in the clinches and around the ground. We were completely rattled from the first bounce and had no composure plus and little strength in ball contests it was an easy out for the Crows snd only the inaccuracy ( and our different game plan) saved us from a mauling. Also our leaders had a bad day and couldn't really impact the game until after 3/4 time. From my TV it was just as much decided by our timid ness and Crows sustained pressure. We did not compete on the same level and looked like a bottom four team. I am happy for you to offer your experience and summary but I MO it is no good glossing over the truth at this stage of the season.

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Under Goody ( and remember he inherited a team on the rise since Roosy took over in 2017) other than 2019 with the injury, surgeries and the associated pre season fitness debacle we have not finished lower than 9th. our WINS 57 LOSSES 31 DRAWS 1 from 89 MATCHES which is approx 64% a very good ratio in anyone's language. ONE FLAG also one Prelim Final. His real record is MATCHES 111 WINS 62 LOSSES 48 DRAWS 1 ONE FLAG and ONE PRELIM FINAL. Approx 56% Which is still acceptable. Depending upon your own expectations with our list it shows that you need about 5/8 years to develop a proper sustainable successful list if you are coming from the Rock Bottom that was 2007/2013 at our Club. Yes Jason Taylor you have your footprint hand and mind all over our list since about 2014/5. Thank you to all the Coaches snd FD people over the period from 2014!!

To be fair this is only ONE example, you need at least a sample of 5 games minimum to create something "different".

That's Jacko !!!

Really why talk about Amiss ? We were never able to get him early in the draft and have done a mighty job getting Van Rooyen. All indications are he is progressing well and Picket advised of this in his report. Your Amiss vs JVR is a classic case of better knowing a devil AND NOT knowing another ATALL. Have a look at his highlights. He is versatile and can play back as well as forward which he has gone successfully in WA Colts and Under 19 state Football plus about 5 Claremont games where he concentrated on FF.

Very disappointing We were smashed around the ball as no kids were strong or smart enough to use their skills. Sherriff tried hard but was her own worst enemy with any disposal, we resorted to our 15/20m passes which won't work against top opposition applying pressure. Our passing then made way to 1/2m handballs as the girls played "hot potato " snd went round in circles till a Crow took possession and got the ball to the outside or backwards for a clean breakaway and 30/40m kick down the ground generally yo another Crow in the open or in front of our defenders. As usual Erin Phillips was given a free reign WHO was assigned to TAG or WATCH her? All our much touted top players had stinkers Paxy Hore Zanker ( in the ruck when Lauren Pearce was getting treatment) Harris and Mithen. Pressure and stage fright were the reasons plus general footy standards like staying front and centre ( like Erin Phillips) was non existent. In the last quarter we seemed to break the shackles and had a reasonable system and long kicking game yo our forwards as Daisy controlled the play, Thus us more of a game plan they will get us against top teams kicking the ball to a moving target and the girls swarming forward to create some panic even in the Crows defence. But the ONE non negotiable is that we don't FUMBLE the ball which we did vs Saints also. Half the side looked frightened and it showed big time ie no confidence and a very sub standard 3 terms. Scoreboard flattered a little but plenty of learnings and our game plan needs reshaping and smarter connectivity with longer kicking to position if we are to study in the flag race.

DD he said " he'd require two top ten picks " and I'm my world that means exactly what I have understood . Apparently there is something in that that makes that mean something else to you? Not querying JT nor underestimating Jim in any way but thsts not the argument. I was likening a D/Lander previously writing Clarry in a similar vain and our Flag proved don't underestimate how good our players are. Dogga is a great talent and I don't think he is going anywhere soon ( yet) as he openly speaks so highly of Maxy and the Club. His team ethic is fantastic and loves the boys snd wii relish the WA boys just joining us. I believe a realistic payment and contract extension will be sorted. Clarry maybe also this year if possible. We are growing as a Club towards the best we can be each decision that is made.

DMee I agree with your last sentence but your BBB summary was IMO a completely inaccurate summary of his journey and trade on table. NBB averaged 60 goals per season for NM and we are told that 180 goals was the best in AFL over that period. In 2020 he played about 7/9 games for a very poor return of less than a goal s game. Of course he suffered a knee injury and was not fit for most of the season. He would probably have been low on confidence also and Larkey has started off his AFL career in fine style in the meantime. I dont know anything about BBB and his marriage and non football lifestyle views but he is a very devoted family person and his wife appears to be strong lady as well with fitness etc part of the setup. Contract negotiations had been ongoing for months and a large contract was offered to BBB which he refused. ( May have been around $700,000 it is rumoured ). Something seems to have gone wrong at this point as not much else happened when out if the blue North advised Benny he could look elsewhere ( or wasn't required anymore). If the "Mr Flopsy" free kick story has any legs I doubt it. Ben may have not handled bring injured well and this may have resulted in form loss and losing his appeal as their chief goal kicker and " golden boy" BBB has got frees and plays in a tall gangly style ( Long legs and height) accentuate this. We have remodelled him partly as he is moving outside the arc and he is a good Avenue to goal as well as a reliable mark snd kick and requires the No 1 tall defender. But getting BBB for trade pick 28 with a couple of pocket money trade exchanges is a complete bargain. What is good that has not been said is he is being paid FAR LESS than 7 triple figures and he is totally invested in our Club, assisting coaching our AFLW girls. Not free but our market negotiation skills are still in great hands as he has sured up a flag with about 10 strong grabs 3 goals and been spearhead of a multi talented group of forwards who played even better than the sum of their parts together with a connectivity not seen for a few years. Long May " BBB Mr Flopsy Sideshow Bob or Big Bad Benny " extend those arms (big dukes as BT would say) and be our "long run up " goal kicker for all of his next 3 years of his contract. Dees fans now love his hair and long run up but I think his team play and above all his reliable and straight kicking !!!

And the greatest other than ours The Dogs in 2016 ???

Agree FD providing we win as a team at least 2:3 flags in the next 6/7 years.

Completely disagree DM To lose one of your players you st RV building a dynasty and to be ready to take over from Maxy roiled be hard to take. One crazy Demonlander ( he will know who he is/was) posted a similar sentiment after we lost a game in 2020 ( or it may have been 2019) saying we round get XXX on the trade for Clarry. As events have proved there is only ONE Clarry and he is so special he just may be our greatest player ever ( if Trac doesn't claim it). Some players are harder to replace than others and we know why. No one comes near their best and they are match winners! They take over games and NO ONE can challenge them. Eg The Granny. Yes Clarry has solved his issues with handball and disposal etc. and is now the elite player who he always looked he would become. Maximum impact and ferocious attack on the ball with an over the top attitude NOT TO LOSE. He often goes his hardest in the last quarter but to be fair it's all the time. So saying 2 picks will replace Dogga is far too simplistic he is special and a champion who wins games already with his unique competitive style Great ball skills and pace that 199cm players don't have and his team first attitude plus he rarely if ever fumbles. We don't know how it will be if we have to replace Dogga ( like Clarry) but you don't know how valuable he is until you don't have him!! Thats why Eagles were bloody lucky they got Josh Kennedy for Judd but that's rare rather than the norm.

We never try to individualise in our forward line !! So no 100 goal kicker.

Thanks for the correction Clint I guessed wrongly.