Deesprate

This is OVER. Goody will rebuild over summer. Be patient

U12 on goal line FFS

Fritsch que Benny Hill music

Clearly mouthed off. Cost us a goal. Watching Lever make me sick.

Bedford undisciplined stupidity. Typical self indulgent rubbish

This team look more balanced to me and we have at least had some time to get used to the surroundings. I read in this site a lot about how the current club cant be held accountable for 50 years of failure. Whilst that is true I think culturally a loser mindset has been handed down year to year. If you look at our leaders Gawn; Jones; Viney none of them have experienced success. I think it is why we dont beat good team or make finals there is simply no winning culture. People like to compare Goodwin to Thompson/Hardwick but they both came out of winning environments. Goodwin had involvement in a winning culture in Adelaide but that was over 20 years ago. His apprenticeship as coach came from a losing culture at Essendon. The acceptance of losing was amply demonstrated by Gawn after the Swans game. I found his comment that there were positives out of the game alarming and his lack of leadership to turn thing on the field a major worry. I just think the Dees lack uncompromising leaders who refuse to accept the concept of losing.To me we just appear to damn nice and accepting of defeat and I think Goodwin personality perpetuates that. I think Vanders is an essential component of this team as he is one of our few truly unsociable footballers. He hurt players not in a sniping way but a brutal attack on the ball way. I expect the Dees to run over Freo tonight but until some mongrel get into this team we are are flaky week to week proposition. IF Goodwin fails which I fully expect he will no doubt be given more time next year but at the end of this period of failure can we for goodness sake get a hard nosed coach from a winning culture. That why if we could a move for Clarkson make so much sense.

The cop who arrested Stack and co

Watch Brisbane they kick to the danger zone 30m out. Surprise surprise hit the deck snap goal. We never do that alway to the pocket

It is really sad to see Jones. He is busting a gut because he knows he in the last shot saloon for finals redemption. He deserves better. Has been a great and loyal club man who deserved a better team around him. But life is not fair. As a footballer Jones was above good but the word great is used to loosely. Great put you in the company of a Flower who is the greatest player I have ever seen in a Dees jumper

Agree wind show up players with poor skills

Damien Hardwick doesn’t mind the caper. Goody speak words that don’t mean anything. Coaching is about leadership and getting the best out of people. Can someone tell me what coaching has gone into Max Gawn kicking since he cost us the game against Geelong three years ago. Nothing the answer. Why is the question I would ask. Gawn look like he just want the season finished.

Gawn there were positives and Goody we need to get better. Pass the bucket

Weed can play but seriously who would want to play in our forward line where there is never space and delivery is absolutely woeful. It would be soul destroying.

The positive out of today game is it give a significant reality check on where we sit. The Dees still have the nucleus of a good side but three thing hold us back; 1. The bottom end of our list is woeful and simply not AFL standard. Why people are shocked perplexes me. There are simply to many poor players; 2. We traded the farm because we thought we were close to a flag it was an illusion. Sorry but Lever is a mid range footballer that we are paying huge overs for; 3. Goodwin has overseen the team rebuild since Roos he has to be held accountable for this. THe Dees need to keep building around draft pick and simply offload players who are just not AFL standrad how do they get on our list it just keeps happening. Build a forward line around Jackson; Weideman; Pickett but go all out in the draft for the best key defender we can find. I can hack losing if I see a future but cant abide watching some of the absolute talent less footballers that run around for us. Irrespective of win like the saints until we start to cull the list of those dud players where history. Unless we bite the bullet now we are heading for years more pain. Team like Sydney; Freo; Suns are going to rocket past us. With all the top draft pick we have had our current situation is a complete indictment on those who make decisions.

Smith Macdonald Tomlinson say no more and people rate this team. Delusional

Swans space galore Demons not a spare cm. Why? Coaching

Been like this for two years

Totally predictable so far. Got shouted down for pointing out the Saints win was no panacea. Evidently we need another 3-4 years of Goody because that what Hardwick and Thommo got. This is the Dogs all over again.

Totally agree. Those dinky kicks in the last minutes of the game starve any excitement out. One day we will be on the receiving end of kicking backwards and let hope the umpires maintain consistency.

No,Definitely Not and Not in this lifetime.

OMG Kangas are dreadful remind of the Dees darkest days

Blues win best. If we keep winning they can’t get past us

Just when I doubted Richo had never added value to the Dees this bob up. Good onya Richo

We will still be a mathematical chance. You know your in trouble when it get to that.

I like your optimism glass half full. The days where I got enthused about Jonesy are well gone. Watching him run around in losing teams for 15 years does that to you. But Maxie on the other hand does enhance our chances.