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It's interesting isn't it? I'm inclined to feel the same way, which got me wondering: at what point would one not be worried about a game like this.

You seem to be assuming Pfizer is widely available - it is not. That - perhaps not made clear enough - is my point. There is no real issue - that we know about, yet (remember thalidomide?) I personally wouldn’t take my vaccine safety advice from the MSM. Fwiw, I’ve had both AZ shots btw and am under 45. As the mods say - back on topic .

Blaming people - particularly under 60s and especially with such a crude binary comparison - who wish to wait for the ATAGI preferred Pfizer, or who are nervous about the speed at which the vaccines gained emergency approval, especially the new mRNA ones. That’s entirely understandable.

The data on ITP from AZ is 1/100k to 1/200k it seems https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-08-07-2021 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01408-4#article-info For refernence, motor vehicle death probability 1/25k. https://www.bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoing/road_deaths_australia_annual_summaries 11/100k in 1993. May be less now. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/[email protected]/2f762f95845417aeca25706c00834efa/96781e47a4d2d886ca2570ec0073f6a9!OpenDocument

Well, that is quite obviously the case. Many regional NSWers have been calling for it for weeks, as well as Mel Stage 4-esque lockdowns for Greater Sydney from the get go. And yet, here we are.

There are only 6 viral vector vaccines - 4 COVID19 related, 2 ebola - posted without comment. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_vector_vaccine

Bypass Firewalls https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome/blob/master/README.md I also use AdBlock and uBlock Origin - very effective for obvious reasons. Facebook container good, too. Keeps your FB activity in a container/prevents FB tracking. (Duck Duck Go Browser on iOS also aggressively blocks tracking).

Firefox offers extensions to bypass the Australia/HS paywall It compares hospitalisation, ICU and mortality reduction rates for both Pfizer and AZ comparatively, and makes clear they are equally as effective. My wife's example is n=1, statistically irrelevant, included only as a vignette.

A link for those interested. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-06/adelaide-crows-taylor-walker-banned-by-afl-for-six-games/100355276 Good to have him out for us! Smart cat, that one.

It depends where you live. If I was in Sydney I'd be bringing it forward. I am hearing Armidale (NSW tablelands) to go into snap lockdown. Idiotic Sydneysiders are heading into the regions. It's only a matter of time until all NSW is in lockdown... I think I just read someone flew into Tassie in breach of rules (I think from Syd?) and absconded and has since tested positive... People are gonna people...

I had zero side effects from second shot of AZ. Wife's second Pfizer a different story - nearly put in hospital, me a week off work to care for her.

Sure. They're going to want to maximise attendance? Or does MCG with low crowds the primary objective. Assuming a snap lockdown for a week, with staged reopenings, it's starting to get awfully close to GF day.

You'd have to think there's little chance of an MCG GF, or else, with a really low crowd. Does anyone really want a GF at the G with 20k? Or would it be better to have at Optus with 60k and G/AO with similar... Tend to think it'd be better to have at the Gabba or AO. Although I've never been to WA and have some QFF points to burn, so.....

My favourite non MFC player. All class, always has time

I love the mixture of positives and double double negatives.

Observations. Media storm, tail wagging dog as others have said Comparatively this appears unfair compared to what league darlings get (citations in previous posts) 2 weeks seems fair Bottom line: Viney should never have put himself and his club in the position where we're all discussing this. A good lesson. Was it just me, or did Jack look a bit angry/sour during the game... I admit I wasn't paying full attention as my son and I were playing Lego as we both routinely looked up, looked at each other and said "another goal" (which it must be said is an underappreciated delight as a long-suffering fan)

It’s a zeitgeisty comment from some previous pre game threads

Ultimate Danger Game!

You're thinking of the chulls, broo.

They're due to play the Dockers @ Optus next Sunday, hope they're there already...did they fly straight there? Lockdown in QLD mooted to end that Sunday. Week after that, v Pies @ Gabba, they might allow that, then Weagles at Gabba..

He looks so composed. Love his game. Bowey's smart handball, bouncing it below some other players and straight into the recipient's arms was beautiful. Can't remember to whom and when sorry. Love Harmes, but boy, gee, wow, selfish.

Quick question - why was the flight into Brisbane Airport and not Coolangatta? Plenty of VA metal flying into OOL still? A delightful 100k ride in a balmy 28deg Northern Rivers down to Evans Head preceding a Peroni and the game. Hope everyone is similarly situated ????

Not locked down and 1 hr from Metricon in NNSW but can't cross border for professional sporting match attendance... sad times

Data is still shifting on viral loads in vaccinated v unvaccinated, as is risk. It is undeniable there is breakthrough in the vaccinated, so the question then is: why have a no jab no play policy at all? (Open question). AZ is available right now to anyone over the age of 18. Discl: I am vaccinated with AZ and am under 50. God, being unable to say under 40 anymore hurts, badly. :sobs: