Swooper1987

Very sorry to hear about your circumstances and horrified and disgusted by what you went through. I work with young people everyday and have for many years and sadly your story is not unique. Good on you for having the courage to share your story and by doing so helping others.

Go the orange. Love the way they play. Jesse was always a personal favourite and pleased to see Bedford playing so well now he's getting regular opportunity. Hope they can go all the way.

A true legend. Perhaps the greatest figure in the games history.

Or if Pickett doesn't lose his mind in the first quarter, or Tracc doesn't keep kicking it to Weitering etc etc

A lost opportunity not a wasted season. Our best was as good as whoever wins this years flag. If you look at who's left we've beaten Carlton, Brisbane and Collingwood and lost by less than a goal to GWS and Port. Unfortunately we couldn't beat Collingwood and Carlton when it really counted. Despite our flaws, and we have a couple of big ones, we are practically the equal of anyone left. Goodwin is aware of our list limitations hence his gameplan. We lack midfield polish (often a price you pay for a reliance on contest) and our issues forward are there for everyone to see. That will take time to remedy - recruiting and skills coaching and perhaps an adjustment to the game plan. Teams below us are coming - sides like Adelaide. We will have some significant list changes which should readjust our age and experience profile. I'd not be surprised to see us move back a little next year to relaunch. I'd also not be surprised to see an on-field leadership change. Not advocating one but I believe Max has flagged he's not got long left as skipper. Time for renewal all round.

Another outstanding game from the best full back in the league. Led our defence superbly. Certainly not the fault of the defenders that we are now in the off-season.

It was poor. We basically conceded any opportunity for a clearance goal inside 50. Surely a better strategy would've been for Gawn to contest at least some of those and for McDonald or Smith to drop back.

A lot of disdain for Goodwin in the immediate aftermath. He should rightfully cop some heat for a couple of things. The choice of sub which rests with him and the match committee was the wrong one twice. That hurt us. More damning is the inability of Goody and the MC to absorb Einstein's messaging around insanity. And this lies equally with some of the poor decision makers we have on the field. Our constant need to bomb long at every opportunity - Petracca a lovely clearance in the third when we had all momentum kicks it long for Weitering to intercept 15 out from our goals, when he had ample opportunity to lower the eyes and find a target 30 out. Just one of many one the night and over the season. The fundamental difference between our side and those that fulfil their potential is great decision makers. Elite ball users who instinctively do the right thing with it. If you recall the Hawthorn 3 peat team, it's feasible to say they were not the best side over the season in any of their flag years yet managed to do it three times in a row because of the class and decision making of an array of players. That's partly coaching and partly list management. The other thing that Goodwin and the other coaches need to ask themselves is why didn't they pay respect to Walsh, who absolutely dominated the game and ran rings around our midfield. I don't like his stubborn attitude towards this. In 2021 he had Harmes sit on Liberatore mid season and it worked a treat. I'd have thought a similar role for Viney might have been worth some consideration and implementation. Walsh was the absolute difference in the game from a Carlton point of view. Class, poise, winning his own contests and spreading well from others. Something he did right was getting Spargo back in. Our best deliverer inside 50 and one of the better footy brains in the side.

That's the match review right there. What a great summary of the total disaster that unfolded.

Other than Gawn, the rest of the mids get nothing. Totally eclipsed by Walsh who completely dominated all night. 6. May - just an outstanding defensive effort and more proof that a good key defender will always beat a good key forward. 5.Spargo - I really liked his game and his commitment to the cause. 4. Smith - our best forward on the night 3. Gawn - the best ruck on the ground. One very costly miss, one miss that would have been a great goal but was never likely. 2. Sparrow - a very good game from Tom - showed better skill than some bigger names. 1. Lever - started like a house on fire. Was in the right spot most of the time. Special mention - ANB - loved his last few weeks.

The very last thing we need to do on Friday is be overly emotionally charged. Just play the ball hard and not get jumped because we are thinking about things that can't change. Looking at the players reaction last Thursday night - attending to Brayshaw, rolling him into the recovery position, it's no wonder we got jumped. At that point it was 2 goals to one. We lost ourselves for the rest of that quarter and that was the game. Total focus for every second of the game will get us the result.

A sensible approach.

Let's focus on Friday. It was always going this way. The rules will change next year. That's done now. The best way we help Gus is to win Friday night.

Was impressed with Lyon tonight. I thought he articulated the case for the prosecution well. Buckley and to a lesser extent Brown still came across as stuck in the past. It's obviously hard for Lyon - very close to both the Frawley family and the Brayshaw's. Managed to keep his emotions in check.

Grundy is a professional footballer with potentially a chance to play in a premiership. He will give his all if he's selected irrespective of what might happen post season.

GWS have some genuine A graders. They are a very good team. Kingsley has done a fantastic job. Whoever they get next week will know they have played a game.

We played half a season without Oliver and finished top 4. Brayshaw covered Oliver, now Oliver covers Brayshaw. We go back to basically the same midfield we've had for half a season. Our key forwards have been non existent all season - other than a very brief cameo from Petty. Still most weeks we've found a way. Wholesale change and panic moves at this time of the year almost never work. Our best bet is to play McDonald and Smith along with Fritsch, Petracca and the smalls - Pickett, ANB and Chandler/Spargo and then have Gawn and Grundy moving through there in short bursts each quarter - probably when McDonald comes off. Nothing too radical - the catastophizing can come after the game if it needs to. I still believe our best is more than good enough to beat everyone left in it. And after tonight, everyone is down to their last chance, including Collingwood.

No McKay means the backline stays unchanged. I'd expect Silvagni might come in and Motlop will replace Martin. Those Carlton smalls are their biggest weapon. Need to pay Acres some respect as well. He's a very decent footballer. Hunter probably plays his wing. Langdon really struggled on Sidebottom. I'd go something like this: McVee May Hibberd Salem Lever Rivers Langdon Oliver Hunter Neal-Bullen Petracca Chandler Pickett McDonald Fritsch Gawn Viney Sparrow Grundy Jordon Bowey Smith Spargo sub Whilst Grundy was pretty poor last time we played Carlton, the conditions weren't great for big men. Weather is supposed to be completely different come Friday night and good big men stand up in September. Pittonet and De Koning are a better pairing than the Collingwood spud rucks. Gives us midfield rotation not dissimilar to when Oliver was out. I reckon we have them covered.

No McKay, no Martin. Tomlinson no chance now. Need to plan for the small forwards. That's the danger. And not spend all night bombing it to Weitering.

Agree. Take the 1 week and be grateful.

We aren't making a heap of changes. We played three quarters and nearly won the game. Likely that Grundy or Brown come in for JVR and Jordon or Harmes for Gus and the one who misses out will take Laurie's sub spot. It is possible if we play Carlton that Tomlinson might come in for McKay, in which case Hibbo or Salem comes out.

Fritsch is fine. He just missed a sitter. He kicked 5 straight last week - three after he came back on from his foot interlude. Kozzy is Kozzy - take the good with the bad. Tracc needs more time forward and that is where the Brayshaw KO hurt us the most. Sparrow, Oliver and Viney need to make sure that happens next week. Clearly Jordon or Harmes will return for Gus. JVR is in strife but in reality he was largely a non-event tonight anyway. Options are Smith, Fritsch, TMac and the smalls or Grundy/Gawn combo, or Brown if the knee holds up this week. There are possibilities there.

We'll be right. I reckon we still win the whole thing. +22 on expected score tonight. In every way but the most important we won tonight. We won't go out in straight sets - we'll take whichever of Carlton or Sydney win tomorrow comfortably. And from there an interstate prelim holds no fears. As recently as 2020 the side that lost the qualifying final won the flag. Happened in 2015 as well. Even the great Brisbane side of 2003 did it that way too. On tonight's game, we were fantastic for three quarters. We played a prime mover down and our accuracy was horrible. Gawn played a game for the ages. Most of the others can (and will) play better. Stay optimistic, the best is still to come. And it'll be a flag won the hard way and they are always the most cherished!

6. Gawn - easily the best player on the ground. I still believe he'll lead this team to the 2023 flag. 5. Sparrow - this guy is a true warrior. His second half was excellent and he stepped up in Brayshaw's absence 4. May - controlled the back half along with... 3. Bowey - a really good rebound game. 2. Petracca - a frustrating game I thought. Lacked intensity early but came rattling home. 1. Oliver - just on weight of numbers. I'm not sure why he has reintroduced the 2017 circle work back into his game. Needs to drive hard forward.

It all comes down to duty of care - he showed none and head high plus high impact makes everything else redundant. That's 2 weeks and that's all he needs to finish his season.