Kev

Does our society need more Brain Surgeons or GP's? Does the game flourish when a few take the majority of the pie? AFL requires a team to win, a happy team, working for each other. The greater the stratification the more likelihood of unrest, I reckon.

Kossie is definitely an entertainer. The club will make money on the merchandise from the number 36, the gate takings, and possibly the extra members (dependent upon success).

They are going to be lucky to make the finals. One loss out of the next ten and we miss. Just like the late 60's, 70's and early 80's. The comparison is to the other teams, and we get done by the underdog, cannot put away teams when we are favourites, lose the close ones and rarely thump a team. Other teams are passing us, in abilities and culture. Something is wrong, and paying big bucks to individuals doesn't seem to change that.

Adelaide Oval 📆 Saturday, June 14 ⏰ 2:15pm - 2:45pm 📍 Adelaide Oval 🏃‍♂️ Session type: Pre-Match Captain's Run https://www.melbournefc.com.au/teams/training-times

"Captain’s run tomorrow at Adelaide Oval beginning at 2:15pm. It runs for 30 minutes and there’ll be autograph/selfie opportunities afterwards." According to @Ghostwriter @Rossmillan, nothing posted on MFC site.

Not according to the media, disruptive to the club. If the Woods wanted to buy Traccs contract he was gone. Contracts are becoming meaningless except as a salary cap disadvantage, and causing a feeling of inequality and reducing ability to advance amongst other players Are we more settled in the board or CEO position this season. How was Roffey treated, is the hand over to Steve Smith going to go smoothly.

Phil Carmen, John Tilbrook, Karl Ditterich, Cromwell, Moore, Templeton, Nettlefold, Wilson, how many finals matches? Buying success. How many have jumped, Wells, Alves, many others because we don't get on field success.

But it is not working for us. We remain underachievers, we lack coherence, cannot attract free agency players to the MFC, have board troubles, players are arguing with each other, many selfish acts on the field, not enough sacrifice for the betterment of the team. Now less in the salary cap. Did you see Clarrys kicking last week? Did you see the disruption Tracc caused to the team? Kossie plays a selfish game, and can be inconsistent, though brilliant, I reckon. Can we build a team around him? Let's hope so. His management has got maximum from the cap. Has he sacrificed much? Does it encourage us to be a destination club. Will it help the other players be happier? Gee, he would want to have a good year next season, and drag us back into the top 8 if not top 4 of the comp. I think we have underachieved and have overly rewarded those doing that. We are going backwards.

Sorry Axis, you lost me when you started talking about Richmond players. How do I know were they stand as players within the pecking order, and the contracts they have. Also, I thought we were having a dialogue and that moved further from top players and bottom six. There is a stereotype out there, a cliche that got quoted to me from Collingwood supporter on the weekend. "Our bottom six better than your bottom six", and that is why we win. I have heard it before. Word of mouth rebuttal, I have no direct evidence. As for getting the best from that bottom six, I believe that the top players (if not excessively renumerated), make the bottom better, as they bring them into the game, and assist with the weaknesses. The lack of space in cap to deliver the middle players a better contract if earned, causes waves. The expectations of the top, who do not live up to it, leave a dissatisfaction.

Sure, if their heart is not with us, and the thing that holds them loyal is money, my belief is that they can go and someone else will take their place. If the big contract players were the answer to our woes, wouldn't we be doing well already? Poor distribution of the slice of pie, leads to dissatisfaction. Others may believe different to me, but we are an underachieving club, and there has been a poor culture for some time. With Kossie now on a big contract will we change and meet more of our potential? My guess is no.

Sure, I am coming with views and opinions based on my life's experience. To call them "Deep end", or "unrelated", is just personal attacks.

We all know that those from higher Ginis want to go to those with lower Ginis. Those who belong in higher Ginis are vulnerable to exploitation from those who are at the top within the Ginis.

When you cut up the pie, some get more than what is expected (not saying even distribution), it will lead to rocking the boat and jumping off it. We had to big salaried players who became entitled and did that anyway. Can we keep the likes of Rivers, McVee, Turner, Bowey, Lindsay, Langford, who look like they may take the next step and become elite? Can we afford and will we attract elite players to our club, without a "war chest"?

The question is though, does the Gini Coefficient correlate with more or less dissatisfaction and success within the group.

Enumerational equality could smooth out the conflicts humans have. The bigger the gap in enumerations and status then the more likelihood of disturbances.

A team that want to play for each other. The club is always bigger than the individual.

So are we Premiership favourites next year, with the big buck players? We cannot even get in the top 8, with the big buckers! Why are we underachievers?

Elitism has got the whole world into trouble. They aren't much better than others. We succeed when we work well together.

I haven't read much of this thread. My thoughts on Kossie is we paid too much and for too long. Geelong became a destination club partly due to the stars not getting the most out of their salary. Sacrifice led to success. I think there is alot of selfishness in our club, many playing for themselves. We have an overblooted top end and Kossie now joins them. If they were getting us wins when needed I wouldn't be so critical. We are underachievers, the players are comfortable, and lack the ability to make each other better. They sell this year as being of love, previous years it was brand or cohesion. Seems like they continue to fail at the rhetoric. Having an unequal approach to the players in terms of enumerations, will end in vexation from a few. The club only succeeds when we are less selfish, difficult for the 43 to be in it together. Will we be a destination club, with a restricted cap? We have become a get out here type of club. The level of bottom 6 of the best 22, is often a determinant of success. Past evidence of Tracc and Clarry have shown that these kind of contracts haven't worked out well. Beyond the effect on the other players, those on that kind of contract become a disruption and unappreciative.

The MFC updated the training schedule, unfortunately they didn't post anything about the Adelaide Captain's Run. @Rossmillan

Sunday June 15, round 14 game at Adelaide Oval Therefore the Captain's run is on Saturday June 14. In Alice, the start time of the Captain's run was ⏰ 9:30am - 10:15am 📍 TIO Traeger Park 🏃‍♂️ Session type: Pre-Game Captain's Run ✍️ Signing session post-training I would assume the same times at Adelaide oval. The Captain's run at Casey is usually from 10am The club will post before the event: https://www.melbournefc.com.au/teams/training-times @Rossmillan

Cold and damp, just a slight drizzle falling intermittently. Kossie appears the only sensible one out there. Well rugged up, in boots, minimal participation, had a walk around the boundary line, then some shots at goal. Some decided they didn't need boots, wearing runners and slipping everywhere. Gave a few of the others a laugh. Turner was kicking beautiful goals from 40 out. Rivers working seriously on his routine straight out from 40. Lindsay also working well, he appears to want to nail his first. Bowey kicking them from the boundary line, also giving the inside-out a go, getting close every time. Max and Lever, kick to kick, Oliver and Fritsch also together. Oliver doing warm-ups (stretches and resistance) to his hip, groin, and upper thigh area. 8 Mannequins were out, (don't think that about some players), placed 25 meters out covering all angles. They have done a fair bit of work, I reckon on the goal drills, and continue to show more is being done in the application. General feel is one of, you know, subdued, tension, with various groups connecting with each other, and some joviality. In the shelter, a group of families hung out. My guess they were an invited group. As the players came off the Paddock they asked for selfies and signatures. Players seemed happy to comply.

He reckons I am not qualified to make comments at odds to the highly trained MFC employees and the associated programs. They know, and I am yelling at the clouds. I know, I am yelling at the clouds.

I believe that is one of our problems, the two runs a week they don't have to be focused. There are some things that need structure, feedback and discipline (kicking). I want as close to perfection or at least everytime being switched on when practising, especially the day before the game, and working on the process after reviewing the previous game. Bing181 goes at me because I feel that way about these giggle runs.

Take any and every opportunity to improve in an area where we are not at a reasonable standard. I'd keep them on the track until they focus and get close to a repeatable skill, anytime they cross that white line at all trainings. What would an extra 15 minutes (unless it becomes an all-nighter 😀) in their schedule make anyway?