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I was at the agm tonight where president, ceo and coach all responded to a question about why the camp was canceled. I was satisfied with the explanation, and am surprised at the amount of angst it is creating here. PJ’s comments- the purpose of camps like this is to fast track resilience, mfc has put concentrated effort into this area in recent years and to cancel was not going to mess with overall aim of preseason - injuries, and loss of conditioning, were seen as significant negatives resulting from last year’s camp - coaches don’t treat players as children but address their concerns seriously. PJ is a skilled communicator and no doubt has spun this explanation to minimise the degree of heated debate and bruised egos experienced, to arrive at the decision. But really, in context of all the information conveyed to the agm, this issue is a non-issue

Derwayne is no fan of the Dees

That is massive for our club, we are preferred to all others

This is what it's all about. He chose us over Collingwood, how good is that?

100% I agree. I've been conflicted on Jack. I have come to appreciate the opinion that there must be more going on than in the public domain, for Goodwin be so enthusiastic that he explore his options. But conversely, I have a problem with us receiving a late second round pick for a loyal and talented player, who is at his prime.

Didn't Goodwin say, that if watts ends up staying, "he knows clearly what is expected of him"? it would seem that an ultimatum has been given and Jacknshould be crystal clear about where he stands. I guess if he stays and doesn't live up to the expected standard, he will be in the seconds and let go this time next year.

Trouble at hawthorn? What a shame.

Congratulations

From the club... "hogan is not going anywhere" but, as others have said here, anyone is tradable for the right price - would have to be a massive win for us

And neither would I, if it were us

I'm enjoying this flag for the tigers for the following reasons: - I'm not in Melbourne - lots of my generation/ friends are tigers supporters - tragi/comedy that has been the tigers for the last 37 years means no arrogance from supporters currently - Collingwood, Essendon, Carlton 100% are spewing - shows Adam Treloar to have excellent ability to rate a list - gives us hope???

This is from Greg Baum in The Age,... There was the crowd's presence, which was bigger as a roar is bigger than a woof. You have to believe it was a measurable force in this series and finale. The parenthesis here is an outsized fail for the AFL, who at every turn turn this day overlaid artificial, amplified, extraneous sound over the most spine-tingling naturally-occurring noise in the competition. It's a turn-off; turn it off. AFL catering for mindless bogans, (not that all bogans are mindless or all mindless people are mindless)

This is from Greg Baum in The Age,... "There was the crowd's presence, which was bigger as a roar is bigger than a woof. You have to believe it was a measurable force in this series and finale. The parenthesis here is an outsized fail for the AFL, who at every turn turn this day overlaid artificial, amplified, extraneous sound over the most spine-tingling naturally-occurring noise in the competition. It's a turn-off; turn it off." AFL catering for mindless bogans, (not that all bogans are mindless or all mindless people are bogans)

Yeah I'm of this opinion too. He'll always be ultra bonded if they win, but he'll have no guilt if he leaves. I feel a bit for the crows after what they have been thru and losing quality players to other clubs. Winning the flag would help my guilt too!

You don't sit near us then

Oh and I agree that leadership overall continues to be deficient for the Dees

I haven't read thru this whole thread, so this may have been said, but I would add the following.... jones does a pretty good job of public speaking, no frills, but honest and articulate, not sure that Viney has those skills or the potential to acquire them. I love both players, jones for what he's been thru and staying loyal and jack for his love for the club and tenacity. Please remind me when Viney has sufficiently inspired the team to make the difference between winning and losing- port Adelaide game excepted.

Or dancing

Hope they weren't smoking

Wow, great article. I would have thought PJ was the leader, but you're right we don't hear much from the him, now we are past crisis mode. Send your post to the club please

I want to win a flag AND keep max and jack

I think I'll choose to believe this version of events

And all the emails to the club- my mother did so yesterday expressing the supporters need to hear from coach/ceo/president, in order for hurting supporters to move on from 2017. Closure I think it is called

But doesn't it say on the post box "post by 6pm for next day delivery in capital cities"? ive been working by that for a decade or 2

I'm sure yours will be arriving any day now. What's the deal with Aust post? When did next day delivery stop being a thing?