Engorged Onion

Thanks @Wiseblood, @Demonland time to get a vomit button...

yes they can, and they will... its all ok though, credibility will come.

I would concur @Skuit, it's a bloody well run FD and trading out of the first round seems naive - but the FD are not naive - something is a cooking...

100% @ProDee- and none of us have experienced a Melbourne team playing like this - in our living memory (at least on this forum) thus its really [censored] hard to be cool with it...and feel like its a false dawn. I'm well and truly prepared to cop some losses in between now and September, but the reason I feel so bullish about this team is the evidence of the body of work (stats for some, how we win for others) so far... The individuals really relish playing for one another as a team, not a team of superstar individuals that are not cohesive. If it walks and quacks like a duck, then it is

Weirdly (and I’m sure I’m not the only one), I still don’t rate Richmond and they won the premiership - I guess credibility takes a long time to set.

aside from the last 4 that we have won... there is history, and there is recent history. chin up , they'll prepare accordingly for it

God it is nice to be on the other side of this conversation...

What is it exactly that you want to hear from him? IMO - he is clear and concise and doesnt engage in hyperbole.

I'm not a hater of Dom at all... there is no revelling...it's merely a snapshot of him at a point in time, we can acknowledge the happy and the shitty feelings no?

Mmmm indeed, I really rate Hannan, and don't at all buy into each player needing to have an 'even contribution' throughout each quarter to be seen as a pass mark to getting a game the next week. ps: can you add 'grumpy dom' as your photo - as seen in the song being sung vs carlton

Glad you're passionate and these comments to me a nonsensical. We've landed Lewis and Lever in the last few pre seasons. So we're not bullied. And something to warm the cockles - A contact of a contact of a contact (I've been umming ahhing about putting this forward, as I know certain personnel hate this), alluded that Gaff was not dissimilar to Lever, in that Goodwin and co have been maintaining relationships with him for years...unless something drastically changes...well...not dissimilar to Lever. So in my mind, it'll play out quite nicely for us.

I for one am amazed at the type of player that he is. And by that, not amazed overall at how good he is, but I thought he would be a brute force, stay in the 50m arc, monster defender type of guy...my, he is far far more evolved than that. I was fortunate to watch him up at the GABBA and the bloke has wheels - and THEN he shifts into midfield to tackle a guy who was 4 steps ahead of him. He is explosive with his pace... It's a nice surprise to have a talent who fits in with how the modern game is played.

Correct weight sir.

what? kittens?

Hunting down all those quotes reminds me of this

it's almost like you want him to go down...

I'm lazy, so can't be bothered looking at stats, but eyeballing Clarry's games, he's clearly and understandably had a lot more attention paid to him... thus I feel he has plateaued with his influence. So, what I am wondering (hoping) is that when Viney comes back it will free him up a bit more...is this an accurate assessment. It reminds me of Judd, who was surrounded by Cousins and Kerr - top midfielders who also allowed him to get off the leash.

harsh as [censored] pal.. you do know the ball is oval shaped, going roughly 30 metres a second...just sayin'

So to make sense of this, get Lever now, best case for 2018, but really 2019 onwards ... so as Oscar will become the gorilla defender that we are after (a la Talia) - Lever will in due course fall back to a similar role... the McDonald, Hibberd, Lever alliance may be up and down as McDonald improves, fills out frame, matures in 2018, but this will be a pretty solid backline for years to come

except for when he doesn't - a la spilt mark in defensive 50 when free...but that'd be me being a nit picking [censored] to prove a point.

Do you have a breakdown?

Please explain how it’s ruined their culture for good?

Isn't the point of forums to contribute any point we feel is relevant (though not bigoted)... censorship I can do without, but much like TV, if you dont like the show - go to another thread, threads don't have to be opened if you don't like the topic. On a side note, people are also allowed to write with vindication, naivety, self righteousness, calmness, compassion and information they think they know from people who may or may not be in the know. It's all ok... - play the ball, not the man.

Intersting language in this article http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-04-09/spargo-faces-one-game-ban MELBOURNE youngster Charlie Spargo's bid to make his AFL debut this season has been delayed by at least one week after he was offered a one-game ban for striking in the VFL on Sunday. Is he good to go? Also, mod's please merge this with the Welcome Charle Spargo thread - tried search button numerous times, even filtering by Topic to bring up purely Spargo topics... no avail and kept timing out, wouldnt let me check any other pages etc ...quite annoying actually.

Really nice analysis for a quantitative perspective - and I hope you're right with the last paragraph and that the 'stats will hold'.